NCT 127 vs NCT DREAM

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Isnt that yutazen's job

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watch sm release a physical album for nct 2021 with individual and units cover so it outsells 127 and dream and they all win together

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watch sm release a physical album for nct 2021 with individual and units cover so it outsells 127 and dream and they all win together

At this point I doubt an NCT 2021 album would outsell hot sauce or sticker and I don't think 2021 will be a full scale project the way NCT 2020 was - I bet it's a promoted song by the new fixed unit to launch them and then a 23 member group song with 1 non promoted b side track for each subunit (wayv, dream and 127).... this would also allow them to pool nominations during awards show season as NCT.... nominating both dream and 127 in the same category would split the fandom vote element and result in both not winning.

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There is also SEVENTEEN that can possibly surpass 2M as well

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At this point I doubt an NCT 2021 album would outsell hot sauce or sticker and I don't think 2021 will be a full scale project the way NCT 2020 was - I bet it's a promoted song by the new fixed unit to launch them and then a 23 member group song with 1 non promoted b side track for each subunit (wayv, dream and 127).... this would also allow them to pool nominations during awards show season as NCT.... nominating both dream and 127 in the same category would split the fandom vote element and result in both not winning.

I think that if released with multiple covers (one for each unit so it creates competition between fandoms) they could outsell HS and Sticker, but yeah, I don't think there's much time for that

I like your idea, especially because it would mean wayv and the new unit get something to do at the award shows. And I don't want to image the terrible fanwars that would happen if it ends up being dream vs 127

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WayV had a comeback this year though. They could perform Kick Back or even Action Figure.

I don't think they are getting invited to perform these songs... Sadly most of award shows have limited performers based on popularity and with the tense relationship with China it's difficult

Maybe they could go to MAMA but their best chance is if it's something related to nct 2021 imo

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I don't think they are getting invited to perform these songs... Sadly most of award shows have limited performers based on popularity and with the tense relationship with China it's difficult

Maybe they could go to MAMA but their best chance is if it's something related to nct 2021 imo

Eh? WayV was on awards shows last year as part of the Resonance event, where WayV broke out into its own portions. The prior year they were at MAMA. As a platinum selling artist from a big label, they'll pop up on a few of the awards shows. There were groups that sold fewer albums on the awards shows last year..

I agree that it's likely to be a single or mini album vs a full album, but I disagree that a full unit album would sell less than 127 and Dream. The last full unit album sold more than both groups, then the groups saw a post-Resonance boost. So I'd assume a full album could sell more, particularly with people who came into the fandom or back into the fandom with Hot Sauce/Hello Future and/or Sticker. Their profile is raised even more rn.

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Eh? WayV was on awards shows last year as part of the Resonance event, where WayV broke out into its own portions. The prior year they were at MAMA. As a platinum selling artist from a big label, they'll pop up on a few of the awards shows. There were groups that sold fewer albums on the awards shows last year..

I agree that it's likely to be a single or mini album vs a full album, but I disagree that a full unit album would sell less than 127 and Dream. The last full unit album sold more than both groups, then the groups saw a post-Resonance boost. So I'd assume a full album could sell more, particularly with people who came into the fandom or back into the fandom with Hot Sauce/Hello Future and/or Sticker. Their profile is raised even more rn.

I'm aware of wayv performing on most of shows last year, as part of resonance, that's exactly why I think they have higher chances of performing this year too if they are part of another resonance-like event (aka nct 2021). if it's each unit on their own tho, I don't think wayv will appear on many shows, higher chances being MAMA or AAA due to their "global" name.

but sbs gayo daejun, gda, mma, etc are out of question imo, unless wayv members promote with the rest of units. other groups may sell less but they are korean-based, unlike wayv.

and talking about them, do you know what happened to their planned second release this year? I know winwin was going to some place today and Ten is in China but the rest of members are staying in Korea and there doesn't seem to be advances with the group reuniting soon. most of predictions for 4Q I saw recently only mentioned nct 2021 and 127 repackage...

WayV was on MAMA in 2019 when they were brand new, so I certainly could have seen them going on more shows this year with the success of Kick Back but not so much now. Personally, I don't think we'll see the second release in this year because of it - I think they'll keep cooling them until next year honestly. There is a rumor going around that they will go out with the release anyways in December with 6 - which is not impossible since they spent most of Kick Back promoting with 5.

Winwin was going to Shanghai. I'd assume at this point he's surely got to be wrapping up filming soon. Ten is in also in Shanghai rn and nobody seems to know what for, although we all assume it's clearly solo activities. Wishful thinking peeps think there will be a Tenwin unit, but I don't think that's likely.

They've all indicated they already recorded for the album and continue to indicate they are rehearsing. However, Kun made mention on his radio show about not being able to see family in China until next year, so that seems to support the idea they won't be returning to China to promote again yet. I'd note that they still continue to keep them visible (Kun on the radio show, for instance), so they're certainly not trying to put them in the basement in the interim. (Maybe they're planning to use We Are Family as a springboard to positivity?)

EDITED TO ADD: forgot to quote you 4d-maknae

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WayV was on MAMA in 2019 when they were brand new, so I certainly could have seen them going on more shows this year with the success of Kick Back but not so much now. Personally, I don't think we'll see the second release in this year because of it - I think they'll keep cooling them until next year honestly. There is a rumor going around that they will go out with the release anyways in December with 6 - which is not impossible since they spent most of Kick Back promoting with 5.

Winwin was going to Shanghai. I'd assume at this point he's surely got to be wrapping up filming soon. Ten is in also in Shanghai rn and nobody seems to know what for, although we all assume it's clearly solo activities. Wishful thinking peeps think there will be a Tenwin unit, but I don't think that's likely.

They've all indicated they already recorded for the album and continue to indicate they are rehearsing. However, Kun made mention on his radio show about not being able to see family in China until next year, so that seems to support the idea they won't be returning to China to promote again yet. I'd note that they still continue to keep them visible (Kun on the radio show, for instance), so they're certainly not trying to put them in the basement in the interim. (Maybe they're planning to use We Are Family as a springboard to positivity?)

EDITED TO ADD: forgot to quote you 4d-maknae

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thanks for the update, I try to follow all nct units as much as I can but with 127 cb I have been a bit behind wayv updates. At least SM is keeping them busy individually/as units but it would suck if there's no reunion and comeback as planned before.

If everything went right I definitely think we could have seen them performing on more award shows