I think the top 10 seems to be stabilised? Kinda similar to the 24 hits too? So why is everyone complaining?
Melon Top 100 is stabilised?
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the not stable parts are outside of top15
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Isn’t the chart frozen around that time period?
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the not stable parts are outside of top15
So in the end the top 10 is still determined by ULs
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Let’s wait until tonight. That’s when people usually start mass streaming
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Let’s wait until tonight. That’s when people usually start mass streaming
I saw somewhere that 1-7 am the charts will be frozen. Is this true?
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I saw somewhere that 1-7 am the charts will be frozen. Is this true?
True but mass streaming starts way before that.
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And they dropped immediately. I think for top 10 they are not affected majorly. It’s below top 15 thats becoming a playground
yeah it`s a bit of a mess bellow top 10 and i guess we still have to see how things will go since it`s only the first day so we shouldn`t judge too soon, but even if they The Boyz started dropping i still think they can remain in top 100 and it will be intresting to see how bgs with even bigger fandoms do like NCT and 17 with this changes, but some parts of mass streming are back for sure
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why are people MAD that kpop groups have a better chance of charting? arent we kpop fans?.... or do you guys live in koreea and want to know exactly what ost and trot singer is charting...
I know right?🤷🏽♀️ I guess they want that elusive "GP" nod 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
(akp really should have a 🤷🏽♀️ reaction.)
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why are people MAD that kpop groups have a better chance of charting? arent we kpop fans?.... or do you guys live in koreea and want to know exactly what ost and trot singer is charting...
How else can some prove they are superior than others lol or discredit other groups
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why are people MAD that kpop groups have a better chance of charting? arent we kpop fans?.... or do you guys live in koreea and want to know exactly what ost and trot singer is charting...
i guess it just depends on who u stan i`m not really mad cuz this will help NCT a lot lol, but i guess some gg stans will be upset since fandoms of boy groups can make the charts again
also it`s understandable if fans would manage to chart like 13 songs from the album in top 100 of course it annoys ppl who look at the charts to see which songs are doing well but see a bunch of streaming going on
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why are people MAD that kpop groups have a better chance of charting? arent we kpop fans?.... or do you guys live in koreea and want to know exactly what ost and trot singer is charting...
My question exactly.
It's giving salty
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Not really? Once groups on bigger tier like svt, nct dream, exo comes back, they can probably chart within top5/10 on the chart. What you’re seeing is basically just groups being stable now lol.
Heck you see LYM with bad daily ULs but is pulling out numbers due to realtime ULs. If AF was released on this chart, it’d probably have better charting. And upcoming RV title would for sure do numbers on this chart.
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Not really? Once groups on bigger tier like svt, nct dream, exo comes back, they can probably chart within top5/10 on the chart. What you’re seeing is basically just groups being stable now lol.
Heck you see LYM with bad daily ULs but is pulling out numbers due to realtime ULs. If AF was released on this chart, it’d probably have better charting. And upcoming RV title would for sure do numbers on this chart.
Oh I see. I am still not pressed about any of this thou. Cos honestly I don’t see my faves being affected in any of the chart changes, they are stable af. Also even if the others rise, it would be interesting to see if they can maintain it.
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why are people MAD that kpop groups have a better chance of charting? arent we kpop fans?.... or do you guys live in koreea and want to know exactly what ost and trot singer is charting...
It doesn't represent what's popular, period. Being a KPOP fan has nothing to do with it. You'd willingly see fandoms scam and game the charts just because your faves have a better chance at charting?
OT: We have to see what happens at night when fandom-streaming rules the charts. It'll also have to take a while for us to see any significant changes because this happened when the chart went from realtime -> 24Hits.
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Fraud lol. So overdramatic.
There's no way tbz fans managed enough "mass streams" in one hour to chart that high. It was an effect of downloads and rise in uls since it's a new song. Are you all going to ask fans to not download their faves songs now too? Because they are doing fraud and manipulations by just listening to their faves?
When will this forum understand that fans are a part of the korean public.
All idol groups will have an advantage in this new system. So stop complaining about bgs exclusively.
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Fraud lol. So overdramatic.
There's no way tbz fans managed enough "mass streams" in one hour to chart that high. It was an effect of downloads and rise in uls since it's a new song. Are you all going to ask fans to not download their faves songs now too? Because they are doing fraud and manipulations by just listening to their faves?
When will this forum understand that fans are a part of the korean public.
All idol groups will have an advantage in this new system. So stop complaining about bgs exclusively.
Didn’t you know? Artists are only credible when they don’t have fans.
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Didn’t you know? Artists are only credible when they don’t have fans.
All fans should wait for the "GP" to listen to their faves songs first, if they don't want to do fraud that is
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Fraud lol. So overdramatic.
There's no way tbz fans managed enough "mass streams" in one hour to chart that high. It was an effect of downloads and rise in uls since it's a new song. Are you all going to ask fans to not download their faves songs now too? Because they are doing fraud and manipulations by just listening to their faves?
When will this forum understand that fans are a part of the korean public.
All idol groups will have an advantage in this new system. So stop complaining about bgs exclusively.
Downloads were counted on 24hits too, though. This new top100 seems to intentionally bloat hourly ULs so that it’s toe-to-toe worth as much as daily ULs (which goes as high as 6 digits). That’s why a 30k hourly UL can get u that high and a 3k hourly UL difference within top10 is “valuable” even if your song has lesser daily ULs (i think, 40k difference or so).
Obviously, the following hour is also a test if that UL count can keep up.
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And no, the top 100 is not stable...at all. Literally just look at the mess as SOON as the new chart was implemented, multiple LYW songs started flooding the top 100 and throwing out several songs from the top 100.
Maybe you should change the title to the top 10, because it looks like that's the only part of the chart that went unaffected.
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i mean u can see the change by how high The Boyz enterted on melon, good for them but still this does show mass streaming is back lol
yap that's a good point just now mass streaming will start right away with song release to 'get the peak'
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Downloads were counted on 24hits too, though. This new top100 seems to intentionally bloat hourly ULs so that it’s toe-to-toe worth as much as daily ULs (which goes as high as 6 digits). That’s why a 30k hourly UL can get u that high and a 3k hourly UL difference within top10 is “valuable” even if your song has lesser daily ULs (i think, 40k difference or so).
Obviously, the following hour is also a test if that UL count can keep up.
My point stands regardless.
Tbz charted this high because their song is new. It's not fraud.
People listening to their faves is not fraud.
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My point stands regardless.
Tbz charted this high because their song is new. It's not fraud.
People listening to their faves is not fraud.
Obviously! But that is so far from the point. Listening to it is one thing, but under a substantial ordinal number, it’s a bit disingenuine compared to the 24hits. LYM is a proof that mass streaming is back and can bloat their ranking compared to songs that were consistently getting better daily ULs. All because hourly UL is bloated to go 50% toe-to-toe with daily ULs. Which, i believe, is a bad representation of what the rank should be 🤷
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Let see what happen at around 12:00 - 1:00. If the boy groups all rise at that time then this change is bullshit.
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Obviously! But that is so far from the point. Listening to it is one thing, but under a substantial ordinal number, it’s a bit disingenuine compared to the 24hits. LYM is a proof that mass streaming is back and can bloat their ranking compared to songs that were consistently getting better daily ULs. All because hourly UL is bloated to go 50% toe-to-toe with daily ULs. Which, i believe, is a bad representation of what the rank should be 🤷
The first poster in this page used the word fraud. That's why I specifically used that word. The post may be a bit edited now.
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Maybe you should change the title to the top 10, because it looks like that's the only part of the chart that went unaffected
Top20-top25 is stable mostly. Below 50 and especially below 70 it's over 💀
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Fraud lol. So overdramatic.
There's no way tbz fans managed enough "mass streams" in one hour to chart that high. It was an effect of downloads and rise in uls since it's a new song. Are you all going to ask fans to not download their faves songs now too? Because they are doing fraud and manipulations by just listening to their faves?
When will this forum understand that fans are a part of the korean public.
All idol groups will have an advantage in this new system. So stop complaining about bgs exclusively.
My use of the word "fraud" was very clearly a hyperbole/over-exaggeration. Anyway it was kinda clear that wasn't the right word to use in this situation so I edited it.
OT: People are mad because it doesn't represent what the GP is into unlike the 24Hits chart.
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LYW already entered top19 even surpassing Lilac & Asap
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We need to wait a week. Right now fandoms are going strong because it's a novelty. I don't think LYW will be charting this high during the day one week from now. But he will still chart well at 8AM.
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maybe give it some time to see patterns emerge or something?
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LYW is coming for everyone's necks.
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Tbh idk why yall are mad. LYW will still conquer Top3 on old real time charts during frozen hours. It happened even during BTS CB and It will still happen now. The most important chart will still be daily charts anyway. The only bummer is that real time chart will no longer reflect the daily numbers (but now we get to see all the uls on Top100 now so we can deduce what will be on the Top100 Melon Daily anyway). At least during 24hits we can see once the song rise on 24hits then it'll def rise on Melon daily as well.
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who are mad?
someone actually got mad because of charts? lmao.
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It's insane that LYW song was over a year old song
Imagine the power of rich moms would do if he released a new song
Now, charting at #15 surpassing Rollin, Alcohol free, CMBR and just below DDD
Crazy
top10 soon I guess
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We need to wait a week. Right now fandoms are going strong because it's a novelty. I don't think LYW will be charting this high during the day one week from now. But he will still chart well at 8AM.
You are wrong about LYW. take a look at his total and daily stream of this year. The song was released April 2020, yet his stream is number 1 on daily and yearly. Not even BTS can beat him with fandom and GP support.
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