When someone tells me BTS have “westernised”

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The last tweet is

"when someone says they miss the old bts"

In my experience it takes only one song, or two songs that are different in a significant way from everything else for people to say an artist has changed

Just gotta carry on enjoying what you like, change isn't a bad thing if you like the change

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Thank goodness they've changed because there's nothing more dull than an artist who stops innovating, growing, and experimenting. I don't want the same thing over and over again. I might not like every change an artist makes but I do want them to try new things and not become stagnant.

Don’t you know ? BTS only released Dyna, Butter and Permission to Dance in 2020-2021.

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Film out who? Bicycle who? Don’t who? LGO who? BE who?

Kpoppies towards all their Korean releases in 2020-2021

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Change in context here refers to them becoming “westernized “ the term some people have been running up since BTS released English songs. The last tweet obv refers to ppl who whine about missing their Korean music when they constantly do release them and it’s always readily available for listen.

Yeah I gathered it was about English singles.

They're an active group, they'll be judged on their most recent releases

and their biggest hits over time.

My point was change is what you make of it, I get why people don't like certain changes and I also get why some people do like them. That includes promoted English language singles.

If we look at the trojan horse image, the "westernised songs" are the ruse and the real killing part are the Korean songs. So the change there is a tactic that surprises and then entices people.

And yes, that's what I was referring to? People saying they miss the old bts meaning they miss older bts music.

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I agree that they won't be making the music they made 5 years ago, they wouldn't make a Wings again (unless they decide to do a throw back style album) and that's perfectly natural.

5 years is a long time in kpop years.

The thing she said about Asian Fetishisation missed the mark though imo. It's a big claim she made and she didn't explain it.

Sorry to say what is this shit of being westernized? BTS has one of most diverse discographies with pop, hiphop, retro , electronic etc. every genre is integrated in it

I understand , sometimes it is hit and miss for some. But that doesn't mean they are westernized ( if they want BTS to make meme kpop songs, spare me). People know nothing about music here lol.

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The thing she said about Asian Fetishisation missed the mark though imo. It's a big claim she made and she didn't explain it.

She did explain it tho? If you go on twitter (and some people on akp too actually), there is a huge discourse about the 3 songs in English. NOT because of how it sounds but solely because of English. And people are saying exactly what she said, they are singing in English and losing their Korean identity blah blah.

If the problem was with bts singing in a different language, the same energy would be seen for film out but it was not. People were literally praising it left and right. So the problem is clearly them singing in English. And it points to the deeper problem of Asian fetisization. But you can only see the problem if you want to so🤷‍♀️

They have gone the western route and its okay because they've clearly mentioned their ambitions of a grammy. By western route, I dont mean the english songs but doing english chat shows and not being as prominent on k-media.

All things said and done, they've gone global and it is something that they wanted themselves.

Maybe global is a better word than westernized.