PLEDIS WILL FOR SURE NOT INFLATE SEVENTEEN SALES... I HATE IT HERE.. SEVENTEEN ALBUM HAS HIGHER SALES ON HANTEO THAN GAON

    Maybe the next album? (hahah sounds hopeful) It might be a full album this time. They haven't had one since 2019 with An Ode.


    But Pledis and HYBE keeps milking the fandom with so many merch. There was water bottles...wrist bands...bittersweet empty tins...1-2 sticker sheets...charms...anniversary ring necklace...hoshi spider special photobook...hoshi svt tapes photobook (1/13 - there's 12 more photobooks of other members that has yet to be revealed)...incomplete merch + incomplete dvd sets + photobooks...1843787 solo magazine shoots...caratland merch...DICON photobooks (with 13 different covers I think) it doesn't seem alot but some of the merch just keeps being pumping out for no reason (like the water bottles...). Then we got the japanese cb with 5-6 versions...before the kr cb...god they really sucked the fandom dry. With some of them happening before the RTL cb...I just can't help but think...what are the companies thinking?


    I'm worried that there's gonna be more solo merch (after some digital singles) before the next cb with other newfound products from HYBE. I have a feeling that there's gonna be a jp cb either before or after the kr cb (hopefully that does not happen lol but if it does...after would be better haha). It'll be good to give us a break for the merch department lolololol.

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    Maybe the next album. It might be a full album this time. They haven't had one since 2019 with An Ode.


    But Pledis and HYBE keeps milking the fandom with so many merch. There was water bottles...wrist bands...bittersweet empty tins...1-2 sticker sheets...charms...anniversary ring necklace...hoshi spider special photobook...hoshi svt tapes photobook (1/13 - there's 12 more photobooks of other members that has yet to be revealed)...incomplete merch + incomplete dvd sets + photobooks...1843787 solo magazine shoots...caratland merch...DICON photobooks (with 13 different covers I think) it doesn't seem alot but some of the merch just keeps being pumping out for no reason (like the water bottles...). Then we got the japanese cb with 5-6 versions...before the kr cb...god they really sucked the fandom dry. With some of them happening before the RTL cb...I just can't help but think...what are the companies thinking?

    Woah, is it that bad?

    I love Pikachu.

    Always have, Always will.


    "Pika-Pi"

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    Woah, is it that bad?

    For real :pepe-sad:


    Also, this time...SVT had almost zero promo (except AmaSat and that eating show (tho they weren't promoting their cb, just eating spaghetti, and probably smth else I can't remember) and no variety shows dedicated for RTL in Korea (meaning that most of the public had no idea that SVT even had a cb)...with the fandom being not...so strong in streaming...we really hanged onto the song as best as possible. But I guess they took a nice rest since they also went into quarantine mode just a day after their cb.


    For this comeback, most of the promos were dedicated to the western market.


    I just hope the next MV would be better than RTL. I'm not exactly a fan of the MV in comparison to their stuff with Fallin' Flower/DWC/L&R. AND SOLO TEASERS. SVT hasn't had any solo teasers since DWC in 2017. That was such an exciting period with all those numbers and constellations, etc. I guess their budget went into the solo projects...?

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    Maybe the next album? (hahah sounds hopeful) It might be a full album this time. They haven't had one since 2019 with An Ode.


    But Pledis and HYBE keeps milking the fandom with so many merch. There was water bottles...wrist bands...bittersweet empty tins...1-2 sticker sheets...charms...anniversary ring necklace...hoshi spider special photobook...hoshi svt tapes photobook (1/13 - there's 12 more photobooks of other members that has yet to be revealed)...incomplete merch + incomplete dvd sets + photobooks...1843787 solo magazine shoots...caratland merch...DICON photobooks (with 13 different covers I think) it doesn't seem alot but some of the merch just keeps being pumping out for no reason (like the water bottles...). Then we got the japanese cb with 5-6 versions...before the kr cb...god they really sucked the fandom dry. With some of them happening before the RTL cb...I just can't help but think...what are the companies thinking?


    I'm worried that there's gonna be more solo merch (after some digital singles) before the next cb with other newfound products from HYBE. I have a feeling that there's gonna be a jp cb either before or after the kr cb (hopefully that does not happen lol but if it does...after would be better haha). It'll be good to give us a break for the merch department lolololol.

    AND 3 days of caratland online ticket + merch....i'll prob skip the merch but 3 days of online caratland is easily gna cost a hundred dollars...gna exercise a lot of self control lol

    I think the reason why the MV doesn't have a lot of views is due to the MV lacking storyline. There's things going on but nothing's really happening if you know what I mean. It's pretty but...there's smth missing. (It's a subjective thing so its just me venting out haha). When the chorus comes in, they cut in and out of those shots. It's getting exciting! But they suddenly switch to a close-up of the member looking somewhere, which kinds of stalls the moment for that split second. And that second really makes me feel like the timing is off. ALSO WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ORANGE BALL SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE THE ABSTRACTNESS OF LOVE IN THAT FORM CAN IT.......sry that just snapped in me lol. Also the rain scene. Yeah it was cool...but we never get a close-up shot of the member's faces and it was raining so hard that you can't even see ANYTHING or DETAILS. They should cut in-between to a close-up...in the rain...(after watching Dispatch's behind for RTL...there were so many good moments in that rain scene and they looked so good...) In the end, it felt like the director didn't know how to handle that amount of people... I was expecting some impressive feels since the director shoots for YG artists and their MVs are usually really good...


    I'm just praying for a good quality MV next. PLEASE PLEDIS OR HYBE. PLEASE GIVE SVT AN IMPRESSIVE MV AND STOP PUTTING THEIR BUDGET THROUGH THOSE MERCH AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL CB THAT WILL GIVE YOU MORE MONEY THAN THE OVERALL 'MINI' MERCH YOU PUT OUT. :peperain: :pepe-life-support: :pepefacepalm:

    I can't remember clearly but I'm pretty sure I saw something like this happen before during 2nd generation. It can be regulated in the next few months so it's still too early to talk about suspicions of inflation and overshipping.

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    I think the reason why the MV doesn't have a lot of views is due to the MV lacking storyline. There's things going on but nothing's really happening if you know what I mean. It's pretty but...there's smth missing. (It's a subjective thing so its just me venting out haha). When the chorus comes in, they cut in and out of those shots. It's getting exciting! But they suddenly switch to a close-up of the member looking somewhere, which kinds of stalls the moment for that split second. And that second really makes me feel like the timing is off. ALSO WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ORANGE BALL SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE THE ABSTRACTNESS OF LOVE IN THAT FORM CAN IT.......sry that just snapped in me lol. Also the rain scene. Yeah it was cool...but we never get a close-up shot of the member's faces and it was raining so hard that you can't even see ANYTHING or DETAILS. They should cut in-between to a close-up...in the rain...(after watching Dispatch's behind for RTL...there were so many good moments in that rain scene and they looked so good...) In the end, it felt like the director didn't know how to handle that amount of people... I was expecting some impressive feels since the director shoots for YG artists and their MVs are usually really good...


    I'm just praying for a good quality MV next. PLEASE PLEDIS OR HYBE. PLEASE GIVE SVT AN IMPRESSIVE MV AND STOP PUTTING THEIR BUDGET THROUGH THOSE MERCH AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL CB THAT WILL GIVE YOU MORE MONEY THAN THE OVERALL 'MINI' MERCH YOU PUT OUT. :peperain: :pepe-life-support: :pepefacepalm:

    i don't think the low views had anything to do with the video itself..

    i just don't think svt has many causal/bandwagon fans that will tune into them no matter what + not many ads + the asian fanbase not being able to carry the views anymore.

    also didn't help that majority of the asian fanbase did nothing but focus on hybe/hitman bang rather than the comeback and svt.

    sure the mv could've been better but i don't think that's the reason for the low views.


    look at left and rights views, there was a bit of buzz surrounding it (negative buzz but buzz nonetheless) i think thats what was missing.

    That's why there's nothing really happening...


    But wasn't that focus (on Bang) momentary? I didn't really feel it much during streaming (it was only when it was announced - maybe for a week before the MV?). Otherwise, I see a lot complaints on Twitter around the MV, and also from Carats around me. Most were unenthusiastic about the quality of this comeback. They told me how there was nothing quite interesting about it (and I guess maybe the track for others) that would make them rewatch it. So it really depends on which aspect of the fandom we're looking at. There's some that's unsatisfied about the music production, some for the artistic development in the MV, etc (some maybe caught up in the Bang factor, tho I don't think that's really a reason to slowing down our streams). It's really hard to tell (and that's why I gave my personal opinion and venture into the 'venting culture' of what I thought might be a cause).


    Also, (you're right about that) the ads part might be it. There were a circulation of it but I'm not sure how long it stayed or lasted. I saw a couple in the first week while streaming but I'm not sure after (like whether it's still going or not. We won a poll on IdolChamp for MV ads tho! Hopefully they'll boost up some of the views). L&R did have a buzz around that *ahem* situation but without it, the views were pretty high before that even issue occurred. Most of the views (in the first week) was excitement (?) since there was an ambiguous period of no promo Seventeen, no merch, Coups and also Seventeen's entrance to HYBE. Alot of the viewers (followers from the HYBE channel) checked them out, thinking that they were a new boy group under the label. Also, prior to L&R, they had MYMY to open up the era and reveal a snippet of the concept Seventeen was coming through. So we really got to see how they've been doing over the several months of 'emptiness' from the last cb and Henggarae cb. But what I liked about that era was due to the heaviness or fullness of that cb. I can't explain it but there was a 'good' feel (eventho it did invite the bad feels in the latter part of the promo).


    Although Your Choice had a similar 'hiatus' (I only called it that because it's similar so don't get me wrong) but between the last cb was the insane amount of merch coming out and special projects. It felt like we were anticipating something HUGE was coming. Then the animation teaser (with Heaven's Cloud snippet) came out. I could see alot of random people criticising the quality since Pledis rushed the animator to complete it in a week or two (unfortunately)...everyone felt quite uneasy but regardless, it was cute and Woozi's part was really refreshing. A lot of people must have been thinking that that would be the title track. And here's where things joined the beginning of my comment. But I think we shouldn't blame the 'Asian fanbase' (due to the Bang issue you mentioned) - it should be applicable to the whole fanbase because we're all in it together. I see every Carat talking about it regardless of whether they're from an Asian country or not - everyone was talking about it.


    Sorry if this didn't respond to your comment. I was just thinking on my own about the things that have already happened prior to this cb. What's done is done *sigh* I can only talk about it so I'm choosing to do so here for the fun of it. Nothing serious. I think I feel like this because I've been streaming since the beginning of RTL release on Youtube and Genie...so my brain's about to skip to the grave with the view counts. You're probably still streaming so you'll get what I mean haha. (Once again, sorry if this offends you or anyone who reads this looooooonnng comment - it's just my opinion.)

    Regarding the MV views discussion, as a casual follower who has liked quite a few of their songs - ready to love may have been the wrong choice for a title track - "anyone" is better/more catchy.

    Unfortunately what you have are hard core fans now streaming the video but for casual general Kpop fans - the video didn't make me want to watch it more than once.

    Could just be me though.

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    Regarding the MV views discussion, as a casual follower who has liked quite a few of their songs - ready to love may have been the wrong choice for a title track - "anyone" is better/more catchy.

    Unfortunately what you have are hard core fans now streaming the video but for casual general Kpop fans - the video didn't make me want to watch it more than once.

    Could just be me though.

    Anyone is too empty for a title track. Usually, Title tracks are full of catchiness, and the chorus of Anyone is too square (nothing really special for a title track)

    I love Pikachu.

    Always have, Always will.


    "Pika-Pi"

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