Is KATSEYE now more popular in the U.S. than BLACKPINK?

No! BP are really popular both within the group and individually! I don’t think Katseye has that individual recognition yet at least not to BP’s degree

Hybe stans, assemble

to be honest, i respect the bunny hopping, the flip flopping and the token stanning energy...

not many people can even do 1, let alone those 3 at the same time

Is Aespa now more popular in Korea than Blackpink?

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Bringing up their individual popularity is a logical fallacy.

BLACKPINK don't get credit for APT, just like Twice didn't unflop in Korea just because Nayeon got a hit with Pop.

As a U.S. citizen, I can say that KATSEYE have been more visible here than BLACKPINK this year

But isn’t that unfair Katseye is a global girl group who’s main target is the US whereas BP are a kpop group who just so happened to become globally famous? Their criteria was never the same!

Sure, in time/ a few years Katseye might possibly surpass BP in both metrics and popularity but right now it doesn’t feel that way. BP have been in the game longer and despite if their solo music isn’t credited they still get some recognition and elevated status!

Didn’t Lisa just attend some famous event aren’t they always invited to the prestige events only the elites of America/ Hollywood/ the world are welcomed to

As they should, they are Pop group after all.

But Katseye's success will be shorter than Newjeans'.

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Yes. Easily too.

BLACKPINK is not a trendy group in Korea anymore and the numbers show that.

Me when i lie

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aespa is substantially more popular than BLACKPINK in South Korea.

Korean kids don't give a damn about third generation girl groups. Deal with it.

Korea barely have kids since their fertility rate is by far lowest in the world

they may have more streams, but I wouldn’t say they’re more popular. If by popularity you mean their songs being listened to or recognized more, then yes, I agree. But like I said, that’s only in terms of streaming, which feels like a natural result. I still think their overall recognition, the members’ personal brand value, and their popularity are far behind Blackpink. On top of that, I feel like in the US, after Katseye, Le Sserafim is the next most listened-to group. It seems hype groups stand out more in the US compared to other countries tho.

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Life isn't fair. You'll find that out the hard way. Authentic meritocracy is exceptionally rare, especially in entertainment.

Also, when you concoct arbitrary qualifiers to rationalize why KATSEYE is more popular than BLACKPINK, not only are you moving the goalposts but you also are quietly conceding the fact that they are indeed more popular.

Make sure to vote accordingly.

Lastly, stop making me repeat myself about individual popularity. You want to argue that Destiny Child should get credit for Beyonce's hits? Or NSYNC for Justin Timberlake's? Or One Direction for Harry Styles'?

I think I've made my point

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You made a point but you just supported mine Beyoncé’s hits elevated Destiny’s Child status! At least brought them the recognition of those who might not have been familiar to them prior to the solo careers and they were disbanded!

BP aren’t even disbanded and are getting the recognition. It’s only natural if people loved APT and are introduced to Rose they would discover she’s in a girl group etc

It’s not a great analogy because both your examples are well known groups in the west who had disbanded when the soloist reached new heights but even then it elevated their original groups.

I stick to what I originally said even outside the music scene there’s no denying BP’s popularity!

Katseye aren’t being invited to all these prestige events you need invites for. No shade to them but Nickoloden choice awards doesn’t cut it but maybe in a few years/ sooner than I think

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aespa is substantially more popular than BLACKPINK in South Korea.

Korean kids don't give a damn about third generation girl groups. Deal with it.

Sure, Jane. That’s why they were the first GG to sell out a stadium in KOREA,

10 years into their career and still in top 5 Melon after two months, and not to mention the among of topic about them.

Korea totally couldn’t care less about them

They only have 3 fans in Sokor

I love how you got your ass beat by BP cb being a hit yet again giving them records and numbers that surpassed their own and now you are just jumping from one group to another to try something when your own group is getting their records snatched one by one by the same groups you are trying to use to drag BP.

The logic is so kpop coded that it's funny.

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Korea barely have kids since their fertility rate is by far lowest in the world

Ouch, that was brutal

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aespa is substantially more popular than BLACKPINK in South Korea.

Korean kids don't give a damn about third generation girl groups. Deal with it.

That explains why Mamamoo isn't in a hurry to come back

It'll flop anyway

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I love how you got your ass beat by BP cb being a hit yet again giving them records and numbers that surpassed their own and now you are just jumping from one group to another to try something when your own group is getting their records snatched one by one by the same groups you are trying to use to drag BP.

The logic is so kpop coded that it's funny.

I still remember they said Blackpink won't reached top 50 on billboard us hot 100 and will have poor longevity.

Blackpink in their 10 year reaching New peak everywhere.

As a Blackpink fan, i'm still shocked with their performance on korean chart tho.

So far they only have MV and goyang performance in the name of promotion.

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I still remember they said Blackpink won't reached top 50 on billboard us hot 100 and will have poor longevity.

Blackpink in their 10 year reaching New peak everywhere.

As a Blackpink fan, i'm still shocked with their performance on korean chart tho.

So far they only have MV and goyang performance in the name of promotion.

Everybody shocked bc the only group that have this same numbers and reaching even more peaks in kpop is BTS and BB and even BB we can say is more Asia oriented records, but with BP? They keep getting more and more records ww, something NO OTHER GG trajectory showed since now.

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I love how ignorant tribalism fuels you yet you try to make some hackneyed argument about my use of "K-Pop coded" logic, when you're only in here because of your parasocial attachment to a K-Pop group and your inescapable need to defend them from the harmful words of strangers on the Internet.

I am absolutely not impressed by anything BLACKPINK have done this year, and I mean it. My standards are higher.

They couldn't hit #1 in Korea and they got out charted by multiple girl groups in the U.S., with one of them being KATSEYE, who seem to be on pace to DOUBLE BP's career high for weeks on the Hot 100.

For you Blinks to be right about everything you've claimed about BLACKPINK this year, THEY NEEDED TO DOMINATE.

Everything that has transpired proves me right actually.

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so kpop coded. Your obsession with using so many kpop acts to surpass BP is literally your parasocial attachment towards a gg you stanned so much that you act like their records are your own so you are trying to advert the attention that the records you treasured so much from your faves are being snatched like the hot100 one by even BP that you are making your 2025 all about BP being surpassed.

It's ok, Yama. I'm not hurt by your thread, it's literally funny how insecure you are being ever since Jump was released.

No.

Blinks should start token streaming Strategy to defeat Katseye 🙏

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I saw that this year they've seen one of the largest gains in childbirths in ages.

There is hope.

It's a stretch and a fallacy to equate individual success and group success. It also looks desperate.

Miss A doesn't get to ride Suzy's coattails. Hwasa was the highest ranked female idol on the 2023 Gallup Survey; I didn't use that fact to argue Mamamoo was a trendy group still that year.

The cracks in your argument are easy to identify and exploit.

Bring GROUP ACHIEVEMENTS AND FEATS to the table or you won't have a seat.

Okay and? I'm sure aespa could do the same if SM gave them the opportunity.

When the Gallup Survey drops at the end of this year, the numbers will reflect what I've stated.

BLACKPINK is a legacy act. Top 5 on MelOn is something a legacy act can do. They're not pulling 2024 aespa numbers though or anywhere close.

It's ill-advised to try to rage bait a debut era MooMoo. You think I'm affected at all? Unlike Blinks, I'm not insecure about the legacy and status of my favorite group.

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Oh Yama To save us time, again my answer is No I don’t think Katseye are currently more popular than BP in the US

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All I see is

Bundled with comically absurd levels of projection.

I don't "treasure" any records. The fact you even make that accusation only exposes how distorted and disillusioned you are about K-Pop accomplishments and their discussions. Just look how emotional and triggered you are from a simple conversation about BLACKPINK's relative popularity

I can almost see the foam frothing around your mouth whenever you see someone questioning BLACKPINK's status, and you want to accuse me of being K-Pop coded? LMAO

Make an argument then and prove it, instead of making a fool out of yourself in trying to attack me.

Here, I'll prompt you again:

KATSEYE are more popular in the states than BLACKPINK now.

What are your counterarguments to that?

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How am I so emotional and triggered when it's you who is doing all these "BP getting surpassed" threads bc you can't tolerate how they just got yet again another hit song?

It's so funny how you are trying to make me the unstable one when it's you who is keeping updated about all the ggs numbers just to say something about a gg you don't like.

As I said again, your insecurity is funny.

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If you don't mind my asking, do you live here?

Also, based on what, outside of individual accomplishments?

I was born and raised in the States but I’m currently living in the UK!

And I feel like you’re letting your personal drama with the blinks cloud your judgement

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I make threads because I want to. This is a K-Pop forum. Maybe find other hobbies if discussing K-Pop makes you so over reactionary and emotional.

"OMG UR JUST TRIGGERED BY THEIR SUCCESS!!"

It is not that serious, child. So next time you accuse someone of trying to live vicariously through a K-Pop group, look in the mirror and realize that call came from inside the house.

Again, the proof of concept here is the fact you are still focused entirely on attacking me and not the argument; that is not rational nor reasonable from someone who isn't another parasocial patty.

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I'm just laughing at you atp, it's like I'm talking with David. But enjoy your poll result!

Oh BP, when are you gonna stop living rent-free in Yama’s head

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Laughing through the tears is a valid way to handle grief and frustration. Don't worry, Mona. I'm sure one day that utopian future you envision, where nobody on the Internet ever criticizes or questions BLACKPINK in any way, will become a reality.

Until then, continue to be oblivious to the fact that pretending you're literally laughing at this thread (that's kind of embarrassing) is a self roast.

You shouldn't care that much.

I want you to go find that NewJeans thread I was tagged to, where some troll tried to rage bait by asking if they have a future.

See how I handle that thread, then compare it to how you behave in my BLACKPINK threads.

You are self-reporting your own parasocial behavior.

Now run along.

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All these words just bc I'm laughing at your weak attempt.

yama just self documenting his descent into madness due to 1 BP song across all these cope threads