If anyone can steal the throne from aespa at this point, it's katseye

    How does this even make sense when the two groups aren’t targeting the same markets? Aespa, just like the typical SM groups is big in Asia, especially Korea and China, while Katseye’s focus is more on the West, with huge support from the SEA. If anything, Katseye’s real competition in Kpop is Lsf who dominate Spotify and global charts (after Nj gone and Bp still in hiatus), which isn’t really Aespa’s lane. And Katseye hasn’t even charted in Korea, which is Aespa’s stronghold. So honestly, how are they even being compared?

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    How does this even make sense when the two groups aren’t targeting the same markets? Aespa, just like the typical SM groups is big in Asia, especially Korea and China, while Katseye’s focus is more on the West, with huge support from the SEA. If anything, Katseye’s real competition in Kpop is Lsf who dominate Spotify and global charts (after Nj gone and Bp still in hiatus), which isn’t really Aespa’s lane. And Katseye hasn’t even charted in Korea, which is Aespa’s stronghold. So honestly, how are they even being compared?

    U need to just stop spitting facts okay. lemme have my moment

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    Katseye’s real competition in Kpop is Lsf who dominate Spotify and global charts (after Nj gone and Bp still in hiatus), which isn’t really Aespa’s lane

    BREAKING NEWS !!!!!

    We are in 2025 no longer in 2020


    Spotify and global charts aren't aespa lane ?


    The last kpop gg song to pull +2M stream was whiplash in october 2024 and nobody was able to do it until Katseye drop gabriela not even lsrf with Hot


    Aespa "armaggedon" is the most stream kpop group album in 2024 with 700M stream against 690M for lsrf "easy"


    And let's not talk about how Aespa whiplash spent more day on apple music global with whiplash than any gg excluding Newjeans


    I think you are clearly stuck in 2020 when aespa wasn't strong internationally but this argument is clearly dumb, wrong and no longer true in 2025


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    Never understood why Hot 100 (a US chart) matters more than BB200 global (or global exc US) for western validation ...


    Is the US validation that important?

    No idea why people use west when they think USA.


    Companies do want to have success in the west/USA. Bts and it's members charted on hot 100, bp and its members too, newjeans, le sserafim, stray kids charted too. Illit with magnetic. Is there anyone else? Come on Yama-Chan chart king, help me . So it's not impossible but it's hard.


    It's not unreasonable wanting to do well in all markets, sometimes you succeeded, sometimes you fail. American market is one of the toughest markets imo. In Europe we have Robbie Williams who was insanely popular during his peak but his popularity didn't translate to the us. Same with little mix.

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    No idea why people use west when they think USA.


    Companies do want to have success in the west/USA. Bts and it's members charted on hot 100, bp and its members too, newjeans, le sserafim, stray kids charted too. Illit with magnetic. Is there anyone else? Come on Yama-Chan chart king, help me . So it's not impossible but it's hard.


    It's not unreasonable wanting to do well in all markets, sometimes you succeeded, sometimes you fail. American market is one of the toughest markets imo. In Europe we have Robbie Williams who was insanely popular during his peak but his popularity didn't translate to the us. Same with little mix.

    It is giving same energy as claiming a group is doing well in Asia when only charting well on Korea chart. Same analogy (or replace korea with Japan - biggest music market)

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    No idea why people use west when they think USA.


    Companies do want to have success in the west/USA. Bts and it's members charted on hot 100, bp and its members too, newjeans, le sserafim, stray kids charted too. Illit with magnetic. Is there anyone else? Come on Yama-Chan chart king, help me . So it's not impossible but it's hard.


    It's not unreasonable wanting to do well in all markets, sometimes you succeeded, sometimes you fail. American market is one of the toughest markets imo. In Europe we have Robbie Williams who was insanely popular during his peak but his popularity didn't translate to the us. Same with little mix.

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    It is giving same energy as claiming a group is doing well in Asia when only charting well on Korea chart. Same analogy (or replace korea with Japan - biggest music market)

    The point is that companies want to do well in American market. Nobody calls groups that never charted on hot100 flops (excluding trolls). Bigest music market is USA, Japan is 2nd

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