I wonder how long Hybe's girl group trajectory will continue and who they will push as their main girl group

  • Hybe's girl group situation is chaotic right now. While Nj is thriving, the Hybe vs Min Hee Jin issue casts uncertainty on their future. But we can fully sure that they're not the favourite or the one that Hybe will push.


    This leaves us with lsf, illit, and katsseye. Katseye while on the right track, still faces a tougher road as they’re still confined to the kpop bubble despite their brand as global/American gg. With Lsf, despite the success of PN, they hasn’t been pushed in that softer direction to fully utilise the hype they gotten from that song likely to avoid competing with Illit, that Hybe debuted not long after PN become a huge success. Not to mention that with all the controversies around them before, just like Nj, they are losing some of their casual fans too.


    So, my last bet is on Illit and well it looks like that too to many of us. With much of NewJeans' old team now working with the group, it’s clear where Hybe priorities lie. They wanted something like Nj and their success but not Nj themselves. Other than that, Illit is still new, still can make people excited and curious so they can generate tons of buzz for their first cb next. Not to mention they're also token stan by Armys, making their position more clear.


    In short, illit seems poised to be Hybe's flagship, with lsf close behind. katseye remains a wildcard, while Nj and fromis_9 are treated as their unwanted bastard child.


    But I wonder if Hybe can maintain their trajectory of debuting successful girl groups and how long their current girl groups now can continue to dominate. This company has serious attitude and ego issues from their higher-ups, and I’m concerned that at some point, they might become dissatisfied like YG if their most famous groups after BTS are girl groups rather than their boy groups.

  • They belong to different labels. Every label is going to push for greater success. Illit will probably focus on Korea, Japan and SEA whereas LSF will target Japan and the US.

  • They belong to different labels. Every label is going to push for greater success. Illit will probably focus on Korea, Japan and SEA whereas LSF will target Japan and the US.

    i agree w this, every label wants their artist to be no.1 obviously so they'll do the best they can...





    but yes, easily lsf is hybe's fav considering bang pd is working on their music and all...

  • Why would Hybe not want to push NJ though? I dont get this narrative that people are spreading.

    Clearly their issues is wih MHJ. If she is out of the picture they have no reason to have any resentment toward NJ. Especially if they put the group in the hands of a team that will be selected and supervised by them.

  • Why would Hybe not want to push NJ though? I dont get this narrative that people are spreading.

    Clearly their issues is wih MHJ. If she is out of the picture they have no reason to have any resentment toward NJ. Especially if they put the group in charge of people who will be selected and supervised by them.

    It's more about the members clinging on to MHJ ..will HYBE succumb to emotional blackmail?

  • what do you mean main?


    if they are smart then after year or two they will debut new one

    when all controversies die down

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  • imo they push Illit. You could say they are the Hybe's GG v3.0 with Japanese members.

    Many will jump on their bandwagon since they have a chance to be the next BP.


    Active Girl Groups most recent Spotify Global title track results (5 Sept)


    + 1. Illit Magnetic - #10 - 4,003,745 (filtered)

    + 2. Aespa Supernova - #41 - 2,498,127 (filtered)

    = 3. Le serrafim Crazy - #49 - 2,100,628 (filtered)

    + 4. BabyMonster Sheesh - #50 - - 2,035,673 (filtered)


    -- 5. NJs Supernatural - #189 - Day 4 - 1,223,778 (filtered) playlist reach 30M

    = same, + improved, - declined

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  • They belong to different labels. Every label is going to push for greater success. Illit will probably focus on Korea, Japan and SEA whereas LSF will target Japan and the US.


    I personally think the sublabel system that Hybe promotes is mostly talk. It seems more like they are doing this to collect IP to attract investors and easy passive income. Because in reality, all the CEOs of these labels have been replaced by Hybe higher-ups, which suggests they have specific goals for doing so. Even Seventeen and other Hybe groups have mentioned that their staff rotate between different sublabels, except for Ador, as Min Hee-jin had her own team. Bang Si-hyuk has been heavily involved in lsf and illit's songs and concepts. Big Hit workers are scattered across the company, working with other sublabels.


    Bsh hasn’t interacted much with illit yet, possibly because he might face heavy criticism due to that pedophilia mediaplays that they used heavily against Mhj.


    NewJeans and Ador is the biggest example of this dynamic if you say that they didn't control who they want to push. Bsh literally created Illit to challenge Min Hee-jin, remove her after that and still being weirdly towards them now. Taking the workers that used to work with nj and we didn't even know who else left in Ador for the girls to looks so hopeless. So it’s obvious that sublabels can try their hard but Hybe as the whole having power to choose their main fighter. Additionally, there was a clear difference in how Enhypen and TXT were treated, highlighting which group they wanted to promote more. But that's also another topic.

  • Why would Hybe not want to push NJ though? I dont get this narrative that people are spreading.

    Clearly their issues is wih MHJ. If she is out of the picture they have no reason to have any resentment toward NJ. Especially if they put the group in the hands of a team that will be selected and supervised by them.

    If their issues were only with Min Hee-jin, bsh wouldn’t have ignored NewJeans before this and hybe wouldn't being passive aggressive against the girls on media despite knowing how important to win their trust. So, it’s clear that it's more personal to them. Even with Min Hee-jin out of the picture now, they still managed having a conflict with Shin Wooseok just few days ago which the main reason for them to do so is probably because he didn't want to work with other Hybe group except the girls, caused NewJeans to lose some important pieces of their careers and damage the girls relationships with the most high-profile advertisement studio in Korea.

  • If their issues were only with Min Hee-jin, bsh wouldn’t have ignored NewJeans before this and hybe wouldn't being passive aggressive against the girls on media despite knowing how important to win their trust. So, it’s clear that it's more personal to them. Even with Min Hee-jin out of the picture now, they still managed having a conflict with Shin Wooseok just few days ago which the main reason for them to do so is probably because he didn't want to work with other Hybe group except the girls, caused NewJeans to lose some important pieces of their careers and damage the girls relationships with the most high-profile advertisement studio in Korea.

    All those events derived from their primary conflict with MHJ and the animosity stemming from it. Hybe are giving the cold shoulder to the people who side with her.

    As long as NJ remain profesional and make the wise choice to prioritize their career over their infatuation with MHJ, they are good imo, and Hybe have no reason to despise them (rather the opposite given their already well established successful status).

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  • Hybe's girl groups are on an impressive trajectory, with their success poised to escalate even further. Their labels have mastered various formulas for crafting hits that resonate with current trends.


    Rookie groups like Katseye, with their breakout single "Touch," and Illit, with "Magnetic," are set to make a significant impact globally, representing their 5th gen.


    Le Sserafim has released their biggest hit yet with "Crazy," and its potential to climb even higher on global charts looks promising. Similarly, fromis_9 is making waves with "Supersonic," their highest-charting song to date on Spotify and Korean charts.


    Despite these successes, there are always uncertainties in the industry. However, it seems unlikely that NJ will terminate their contract, contrary to some predictions. Ending their contract would likely be a career setback, especially when they can observe their labelmates' rising success. By staying with Hybe, they can continue to ride the wave of current successes, explore new opportunities, and strengthen their relationships within the company. Hybe is motivated to ensure NJ’s success, demonstrating their ability to thrive even without MHJ in the next few years to come.


    Overall, they do not have "main" girl group as they can and will replace any of them if needed, which is the hard truth.

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  • Why would Hybe not want to push NJ though? I dont get this narrative that people are spreading.

    Clearly their issues is wih MHJ. If she is out of the picture they have no reason to have any resentment toward NJ. Especially if they put the group in the hands of a team that will be selected and supervised by them.

    The members supporting MHJ creating a rift between parent company Hybe.

    There won't be as much of a problem if it's not the case, unfortunately.

    Edited once, last by Wateris ().

  • How much of this post is AI? :Rei2:

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