did Fate charting solidifed Gidle status as the current 3rd biggest girl group?

yeah i think so

I don't have any problems with that

Who are #1 and #2?

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Ive

for now ive is number 1

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Ive #2 for what? Aren't they way too much lacking outside korea

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Ive #2 for what? Aren't they way too much lacking outside korea

at this point you could argue that LSRFM is #2 with the gap ever widening if IVE doesn't get their act together abroad. aespa is a tricky one, they need a strong comeback to get back into the discussion. This is could flip 180 come april with illit & baemon

Sure, maybe even second biggest

idk if i’d place them in the newer 4th gen category. they’re hitting their 6th year mark in a month or so, and in another year they’ll be done with their 7 year contract. nj and lesserafim haven’t even hit their 2nd year anniversary yet…

i think i’d place them up there with blackpink (in terms of seniority) and even say that they are still one of the hottest groups in korea. their rise was slow but its steady and consistent. with great music, they can stay relevant on the charts for long. and soyeon knows exactly how to make that work. so in conclusion, gidle are their own category and the newer groups should learn a thing or two from them. they’ve always mostly released great songs since debut. from latata to fate— simply iconic.

In the Global charts, where its sans sajaegi, its NJ >> Lsf > Aespa >> gidle | BM > Ive | Itzy

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Ive #2 for what? Aren't they way too much lacking outside korea

they dont have the streams for sure, but they do have the american touring power i would say

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they dont have the streams for sure, but they do have the american touring power i would say

its first to market advantage, but in 2 years, when every group even B and C tier groups are touring its going to be super competitive and people won't have time and money to go to every single kpop concert.

Yes. Idle has now had 4 straight comebacks getting PAKs (i'm giving Fate a PAK since its clear that Vibe is sajaeging them out of the #1 spot) and #1 on Melon Weekly.

I think LSRFM has moved ahead of Aespa for #4 though, Perfect Night an all English game song barely promoted in Korea beat Drama head to head and ended both Baddie and Taeyeon and spent 6 weeks at #1. Now LSRFM faltered a bit with Easy but they have ANOTHER B side that continues to rise organically vaulting into top 10, something which Aespa has never done.

Ive and NJ tied for #1, then Idle, then LSRFM, then Aespa, then Stayc, then Itzy.

Who argued in favor of AESPA?

Let's point and laugh at them.

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its first to market advantage, but in 2 years, when every group even B and C tier groups are touring its going to be super competitive and people won't have time and money to go to every single kpop concert.

But IVE right out of the bat is going to bigger arenas than AESPA, Itzy and G-idle have done.

Probably because Starship saw the demand for those groups and took a risk to go a bit bigger.

G-Idle may try bigger venues in their next tour.

london,korea take the ktx before busan stop

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they dont have the streams for sure, but they do have the american touring power i would say

Why are you lying. They had pulled 1B streams last year as much as Gidle/LSFR.

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Can't even sell out a 16K arena, IVE is so nugu.

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Can't even sell out a 16K arena, IVE is so nugu.

maybe iu is playing at the venue across from them with other 4th gen groups as their feature