kpop vocals vs actually good vocals

Itzy's singing

They have a lot of tension in their voice when they sing it's hard to listen to

I've been a The Voice fan for years before I became a kpoopie and I laugh every single time someone praising their fav vocal or any kind of kpop vocal compilation, ranking, comparation etc. No hon you into kpop not for vocal, trust me so please stop any comparation bs or you're just clout yourself. And the fact that most of them are just lip-syncing all the time tho (btw I'm not talking about you op, just in general).

kpop idol vs. unknow singer

Give me hot idols with mediocre singing all day long.

have kpop ever been about the "vocals" ????

Listen to infinite. They sing live and do it most of the time with no backtrack. You can hear them breathing doing the dance and you will notice any mistakes like a member missing a lyric or saying the wrong word lol

As a Mamamoo fan, I cannot relate to the premise of this thread

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have kpop ever been about the "vocals" ????

Only when fans wanting to brag and one up whoever they are comparing/opposing. If KPOP was all about vocals, how boring would it be. You don't need KPOP, there's K-ballads for it. You wouldn't get thread like these. Individually, there are some great singers in a group but vocally good as a group is rare.

Mamamoo is one of the rare gems. 

While I'm sure there are way better vocalists esp. when you're looking at a global scale and throughout the decades than most K-pop idols, I also think that (a number of) K-pop fans go overboard at the other extreme in looking down on and belittling K-pop vocalists.

I've even seen K-pop fans bash and scoff at any claim that some K-pop vocalists are better than certain American pop artists, and that some of these contemporary American pop artists aren't actually that great in their vocal technique. As if those K-pop fans think that ALL American pop artists are by default near or at the level of a Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston

While I can appreciate and praise other groups for their other strengths, as a vocals/dance talent fan I have no problem at all praising and appreciating K-pop artists for their vocals, especially with SM groups among my main biases like SNSD and Red Velvet

(G)I-DLE is hardly lauded as the cream of the crop of kpop vocals, you'd be better off using EXO or Super Junior as the example for good kpop vocals to show how it compares to standards outside kpop.

another reason why i’ve is amazing, awful vocals and yet the songs r so good… lol well tbh for good vocals krnb/k-indie is better

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Only when fans wanting to brag and one up whoever they are comparing/opposing. If KPOP was all about vocals, how boring would it be. You don't need KPOP, there's K-ballads for it. You wouldn't get thread like these. Individually, there are some great singers in a group but vocally good as a group is rare.

Mamamoo is one of the rare gems. 

hmmm...and look I understand and agree that a lot of people do appreciate great vocals and may even stan groups solely on based on the voices

but I would also bet that a lot more people stan kpop groups for non-vocal reasons...

never got into Mamamoo so I wouldn't know but I trust your judgment my friend

Why let them go without their main vocalist in the first place, jyp will always be a trash company I'm afraid.