The Fifty members did everything the Koreans hate and why they're being called a "one hit wonder"

  • 피프티피프티 사태의 ‘한국적’ 맥락 - 미디어스
    [미디어스=윤광은 칼럼] 걸그룹 피프티피프티와 소속사 어트랙트 간의 전속계약 효력정지 법정공방으로 치달은 피프티 사태엔 두 가지 맥락이 있다. 하나는 어트랙트와 피프티 멤버들 및 피프티 뒤에 있다고 지목...
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    Title: The "Korean" context of the Fifty Fifty incident

    Author: Yoon kwang un


    There are two contexts in the Fifty situation, which has been triggered by the court battle over the termination of the exclusive contract between the girl group Fifty Fifty and the agency Attract. One is the confrontation between Attract and Fifty members and the outsourcing agency The givers, who is pointed out as being behind Fifty, and the other is a public opinion trend that amplifies the reaction so loudly that this situation has become a social topic. If the former was caused by interests between the parties, the latter is at stake within the K-pop scene.


    The synopsis of the incident is well known. Attract entrusted the production of Fifty's music to an outside agency, The givers, and after Fifty's song "CUPID" became a hit abroad, it was revealed that The givers was trying to "rob" the group. The givers denies this claim, but if you look at the timeline of the situation, there is an aspect in which the The givers's and Fifty's behind-the-scenes movements lead to a correlation. This is the case with the circumstances in which The givers arbitrarily rejected the advertisement proposal that came to the group in May before the exclusive contract termination lawsuit was filed. Many media and dominant public opinion seem to understand this situation according to a narrative,as in, 'as a small and medium-sized agency group gains popularity, outsourcing agencies and members try to change agencies'.


    Given the context of the case, it seems plausible. Factual errors and lack of logical probabilities have already been pointed out in various reports as the reasons for terminating the contract that Fifty is claiming. Rather, if there is one part that is full of probability about the current situation, it is that 'CUPID''s overseas popularity is too great compared to the size of the agency. The desire to move this group onto a larger capital is enough to intervene. ‘CUPID’ ranked 17th on the Hot 100 chart, which leads to the main Billboard chart, and has been on the chart for more than 16 weeks. It is the best performance among all K-pop girl groups, and even if you look at the entire K-pop group, there is no other group other than BTS that has achieved better results. There is no precedent comparable to 'CUPID' after 'Gangnam Style' in terms of the pure popularity of the song itself without the support of a global fandom.


    In the current controversy, it seems that mainly the existing K-pop fandom is unanimous in criticizing Fifty. Compared to the achievements achieved on Billboard, Fifty was not mentioned much in Korea. It may be because of the lack of awareness, but some kind of discomfort was detected in the K-pop fandom community(as in the other idol fans). The logical contradiction of calling a group that just debuted a “one hit wonder” (a singer who ended his career with a single hit song) was followed around like a modifier in the comments section. I think it stemmed from the displeasure of seeing "a stone rolling from nowhere"(This is a reference to a korean saying where a stone that rolled from somewhere else replacing the stone that was in the place before, often used to describe a total newcomer) taking a foothold in the road where even girl groups from large entertainment companies couldn't achieve,and large fandoms(of other fandoms) are disliking and disregarding that achievement.


    After BTS, the US market was recognized as a new continent for K-pop and the ultimate destination to gain cultural hegemony. The

    Billboard chart performance was the best publicity material to prove it. Let's recall that after New Jeans entered the Billboard Hot 100, there was a publicity article saying "they did in 6 months what BTS did in 8 years". However, soon after, the group(refering to fifty fifty) received rave reviews from overseas media that they were writing a new history of K-pop, recording a much higher Billboard chart than New Jeans. As long as Fifty survives, the overseas results achieved by other groups will inevitably fade, and it is impossible to save face in Korea when they bring the news and report on them(as in newjeans or others). It seems that this dynamic is the background for the current controversy to be expanded and reproduced through bellows around a certain community.


    One of the widely circulated critical posts about the Fifty scandal reads: “The Fifty members did everything the Koreans hate.” It is the storytelling of the narrative that the members betrayed the grace of the CEO who supported the unknown group. There is a hint of an intention to attract general public opinion that is not interested in talking about idols by appealing to the 'noble anger' of the Korean public sentiment. In any case, given that the situation has grown to this extent, it can be said that there were many people who were interested in responding to that frame.


    A group that achieved unprecedented public hits overseas was left out in Korea, but it was only after being placed on top of the Korean gossip structure that it became a hot topic and was able to gain “popularity.” This irony is the gap between domestic and overseas socio-cultural trends that cannot be filled because of the globalization that still remains even in the era of K-culture globalization, or because of globalization built around large-scale cultural capital(as in money) and the fandom that supports them. If a fandom in a certain field fights for an issue through a certain community specialized in spreading issues, it can create social public opinion, and the code of the agenda through which the issue is conveyed can also be set by the highly involved public opinion, not the media. This is a certain aspect of Korean society and the Korean public sphere that can be confirmed through the Fifty incident.

  • A group that achieved unprecedented public hits overseas was left out in Korea, but it was only after being placed on top of the Korean gossip structure that it became a hot topic and was able to gain “popularity.” This irony is the gap between domestic and overseas socio-cultural trends that cannot be filled because of the globalization that still remains even in the era of K-culture globalization, or because of globalization built around large-scale cultural capital(as in money) and the fandom that supports them.

    author knocked it out of the park with this assessment

  • In the current controversy, it seems that mainly the existing K-pop fandom is unanimous in criticizing Fifty. Compared to the achievements achieved on Billboard, Fifty was not mentioned much in Korea. It may be because of the lack of awareness, but some kind of discomfort was detected in the K-pop fandom community(as in the other idol fans). The logical contradiction of calling a group that just debuted a “one hit wonder” (a singer who ended his career with a single hit song) was followed around like a modifier in the comments section.

    Dont you guys think the existing Kpop fandom is to some degree to every new group like this? And not only the korean part but also the International one too?


    Even tho its not much of an issue for the groups from big companies since they allready start with a big fandom to defend them.

  • Dont you guys think the existing Kpop fandom is to some degree to every new group like this? And not only the korean part but also the International one too?


    Even tho its not much of an issue for the groups from big companies since they allready start with a big fandom to defend them.

    that's exactly what the authors point is. He's reflecting on the state of K-fandom using the fifty fifty case for examples

  • that's exactly what the authors point is. He's reflecting on the state of K-fandom using the fifty fifty case for examples

    Yeah, i got a somewhat similar impression since i got into kpop.


    I would like to know how the fans of those established groups who are basicly responsible for the state of Kpop fandoms see this.


    Also fifty fifty case is kind of extreme.

    I wasnt active when momoland got misshandled. Wonder If there was a similar unity amongst the fandoms?


    For Brave Girls there was not that much hate. (Maybe because their success was limited to Korea and they didnt really do controversial stuff and barely had interactions with other artists). but the response especially from the international fandoms was also very cold.

  • I think international fandom culture has 'support the idols' as a default, when it comes to conflict with a company.


    This is so messy that I don't known who was at fault

    This tread not about how fandoms react to a fight between artist and company but how fandoms react to a new artist being successful.

    And i think thats not much different between korean ans international fans.

  • This tread not about how fandoms react to a fight between artist and company but how fandoms react to a new artist being successful.

    And i think thats not much different between korean ans international fans.

    I guess K fandom culture can be powerful enough to supercede aspects of one's own cultural tendencies...


    This article led me to some realizations on some stuff. I was confused why Kpop fans weren't more proud of Fifty Fifty. And why they got so much hate from Kpop fans, incl. int'l ones you can see in the comment section on sites like AKP, and the Korean public alike.


    Most of Kpop fandom also don't get that by supporting Fifty Fifty, they're also supporting the fight for financial transparency (Lee Seung Gi Act), better treatment and a group to trailblaze a new global path for their faves. But they're alone in this fight. OTOH, there are industry associations that are alligned with Attrakt CEO who want to for example challenge the Lee Seung Gi Act and protect the old entrenched system.


    Good thing is the general public that listens to Fifty Fifty on the radio outside of Korea has no idea of the nonsense happening. May the girls stick together and not lose hope.

  • Cupid rose on melon after it went viral. So i guess some koreans had been proud. But korean Kpop fans, as much as international ones, were annoyed since they trumped their own faves success.


    Similar happend with Brave Girls. It was mainly reservists and 30yo koreans who let them go viral. And while the public supported them, the recognition from traditional kpop fans was way more reserved. Even with 3 Songs in melon top 10 Kpop fans called the one hit wonder as they do now with fifty fifty.

  • This tread not about how fandoms react to a fight between artist and company but how fandoms react to a new artist being successful.

    And i think thats not much different between korean ans international fans.

    In the first sentence of the OP, the issue between the members and the agency is mentioned.


    One can hardly separate this issue from the other with them, in my opinion, seeing how this dominates discourse about the group now.


    If you only want to talk about how fandoms react to a new group being successful without the factor of idols vs agency, then let's go back to before the court issues started. Most I-fans seemed to be fine or happy with the success of the song.

    To speak for myself, I am not their stan to the point that I don't even know the names of the members, but I was still streaming their song a little extra when they were on global charts to give them that tiny bit of help that my streams could.


    I have seen it discussed many times that I-fans are much more likely to be multi stans than K-fans, so I do think there is a difference. Might seem like a weird comparison at first, but when Kang Daniel turned out to be dating, quite a few of his Korean fans were mad because he did not deserve to 'play' (=have fun) yet. He was supposed to be working hard as he had just debuted. There seemed to be a sense in having to earn something first before one could enjoy success that I don't think people in many other countries care quite that much about.



    I think being from a nugu company helped with people accepting their success. It seemed like a fun success story of a previously unknown group with little resources compared to the bigger companies.

    I do admit that if they had debuted from Big 4 and done those numbers, there might have been more fanwar type of discourse around it, as they would then be seen as a threat to whoever's faves, along with accusations of 'privilige' 'mediaplay' 'payola' etc etc that seem to follow every successful release now when it's known that a company withmoney is behind a group.

  • yes its just used as an introduction to the point the author is trying to make.


    So yes. its fine to talk about that. but we have a douzend threads who allready disscussing that in much more detail. the article also brings no new news to it.

    Thats a great thing to do from you and i hope more kpop fans take you as an example. I also agree that on average international fans are not as fanatic as koreans. but the different treatment is still acute. Like you said most people seem to be happy with the success of the song. but all the news about them braking records only got a few positive comments. while news about groups from big companies get tons of comments without them doing anything special.

    It becomes especially obvious if you compaire them to other groups who are as new as them. while the one from the small company gets called one hit wonder. the same person will talk hours about how the other group have the best discog in kpop even if they have just debuted with 5 songs.^^

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