Do you think CBX would've sued SM had they been given a better management deal after the whole Hybe and Kakao drama?

I mean obviously not

They probably had better hopes for SM 3.0 which turned into ashes when they ignored them 7 times.

Lee Sooman was powerful enough to silence them. Kakao is not.

I think SM didn't thought that they gonna fight them like this

That's why sm didn't give them a reassurance of a better contract since they thought cbx was fine with the ongoing one.

I admit i didn't read long articles but isn't the issue that they weren't paid what they were owed? Why would they re-sign then?

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I don't think SM know what they are doing. Surely, they have a great 3.0 plan but it's obvious that they do not know how to execute it especially in favour of their biggest acts.

This shows that not everyone is capable of running a huge business like SM.

yep. My biggest guess is they overlooked this matter.

ntm that their first PR move is pointing finger at someone to be blamed aka "external force"
well, it's a mess indeed

They got scammed.

SM said stated that they have given them a certain amount, but you divide this by the number of years and then by the number of members, and the amount per year is really really low.

How can it only be $200,000 per year for EXO?

Its like Beyonce getting $200,000 only per year. Ridiculous.

Clearly something had to have happened with management after SM 3.0 to make them change their minds. They (7 members) renewed with SM back in December 2022. And now CBX is trying to terminate their contract only just a few months later.

What made them change their mind and confidence in the company.

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Clearly something had to have happened with management after SM 3.0 to make them change their minds. They (7 members) renewed with SM back in December 2022. And now CBX is trying to terminate their contract only just a few months later.

What made them change their mind and confidence in the company.

What if it was just the slave contract at work *not enough albums released so you have to renew anyways* they were in military and barely released anything, thinking how absurd it must be they probably went for legal advice? Given how LSM, who loves to destroy careers, is gone now they probably felt more at ease in pursing fair contracts. Who knows

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What if it was just the slave contract at work *not enough albums released so you have to renew anyways* they were in military and barely released anything, thinking how absurd it must be they probably went for legal advice? Given how LSM, who loves to destroy careers, is gone now they probably felt more at ease in pursing fair contracts. Who knows

exactly. They were probably somewhat forced to resigning their contracts to the 17-18 years sm wanted but cbx decided they wouldn't deal with it anymore

They definitely would have sued because this is insanity

The way I see it there was several reasons of why they decided finish their contracts, it comes down toa few things

- They are likely not getting paid fairly by their comebacks and music activities for years

- Their contracts have no upper bound when it comes to extension, it's release-bounded

- SM delays and refuses to give them comebacks in a trap to keep them in a company

So you're likely trapped in a situation where you get paid peanuts and cannot leave because you need to release albums... and the company do not allow you to release albums because this would fill your contract

The finally released they would never fill their contract with SM, at least not before their 40s

So if Hybe, SM, Kakao or whoever was in charge started to pay their shares as they should and keep them releasing regular comebacks I see no reason for them to leave the company, as they clearly wants to keep in the group even after leaving the company

What exactly triggered them to finally taking action is uncertain, but if you want my two cents it was Kai enlistment. They must have felt angry and hopeless

I am know 100% sure SM knew very well Kai could no longer delay his enlistment and purposefully deluded him so they could have a reason to not make EXO have their OT8 comeback. The members finally clicked Sehun was low-key in serious jeopardy as well, and this OT7 comeback was NOT happening at all.

If SM treated EXO well and fairly this would never happen

I just can't stand this company anymore. I'm sick of it

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The way I see it there was several reasons of why they decided finish their contracts, it comes down toa few things

- They are likely not getting paid fairly by their comebacks and music activities for years

- Their contracts have no upper bound when it comes to extension, it's release-bounded

- SM delays and refuses to give them comebacks in a trap to keep them in a company

So you're likely trapped in a situation where you get paid peanuts and cannot leave because you need to release albums... and the company do not allow you to release albums because this would fill your contract

The finally released they would never fill their contract with SM, at least not before their 40s

So if Hybe, SM, Kakao or whoever was in charge started to pay their shares as they should and keep them releasing regular comebacks I see no reason for them to leave the company, as they clearly wants to keep in the group even after leaving the company

What exactly triggered them to finally taking action is uncertain, but if you want my two cents it was Kai enlistment. They must have felt angry and hopeless

I am know 100% sure SM knew very well Kai could no longer delay his enlistment and purposefully deluded him so they could have a reason to not make EXO have their OT8 comeback. The members finally clicked Sehun was low-key in serious jeopardy as well, and this OT7 comeback was NOT happening at all.

If SM treated EXO well and fairly this would never happen

I just can't stand this company anymore. I'm sick of it

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I always wonder how it would have been like if the members didn't re-sign with SM.

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What exactly triggered them to finally taking action is uncertain, but if you want my two cents it was Kai enlistment. They must have felt angry and hopeless

CBX filed 7 request starting from March, so it was before Kai enlistment. in fact i think SM messing Kai's enlistment was an excuse to sabotage and delay the comeback more.

the reason CBX spoke now isn't a coincidence, recently the law is siding more with the artists than the companies. many artists are succeeding in leaving the company and continuing their careers. it may have given CBX some hope that this time it will work out fine.

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CBX filed 7 request starting from March, so it was before Kai enlistment. in fact i think SM messing Kai's enlistment was an excuse to sabotage and delay the comeback more.

the reason CBX spoke now isn't a coincidence, recently the law is siding more with the artists than the companies. many artists are succeeding in leaving the company and continuing their careers. it may have given CBX some hope that this time it will work out fine.

Sure, they could have planned to leave in some time, but they probably didn't want to sue before having their OT8 comeback. With Kai enlisting and no comeback on sight they decided they waited to long and was time to leave the company

I bet Kai knew it, poor boy

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Lee Soo Man was the one who got your "faves" working in slave contracts and you still continue to be Soo Man stan...wow.

The guy in their avatar is one of the guys that's suing sm and they are still defending the company

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Sure, they could have planned to leave in some time, but they probably didn't want to sue before having their OT8 comeback. With Kai enlisting and no comeback on sight they decided they waited to long and was time to leave the company

I bet Kai knew it, poor boy

yeah the lawsuit was scheduled to take place in June 1st if SM fail to provide the reports. EXO's comeback was meant before that, they had already recorded the album in February when Baekhyun was released from the military.

the EXO comeback should have been in late april/early may. they should have had one last OT8 comeback. but SM kept delaying.

This is entirely on sm

They probably didn’t expect them to be serious or actually fight them which is deserved and a long time coming tbh.

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Where do I defend the company?

What's wrong with you people?

Its armys and their daily urge to drop the company stan thing to start drama for no reason, or they just lack reading comprehension.

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Clearly something had to have happened with management after SM 3.0 to make them change their minds. They (7 members) renewed with SM back in December 2022. And now CBX is trying to terminate their contract only just a few months later.

What made them change their mind and confidence in the company.

But kireta I also feel that this has been brewing for a long time. Regardless of SM3.0. I think that SM’s weakened position gave courage to CBX to finally step forward. So rather than saying they’re disappointed in SM I want to say SM becoming weak is what gave them the gateway to finally break these insane contracts.

IMO SM2.0/SM3.0 none of it matters. These issues have been plaguing EXO since their debut.

The combination of SM losing their power, many artists leaving the companies and winning legal battles is what prompted CBX imo.

I don’t believe it’s something as silly as promo and career vision those things aren’t guaranteed in any company. But non payment, overworking these things will definitely make someone leave.

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Honestly I think it's no coincedence that all this is happening after LSM got kicked out.

i guess they hoped things would get easier with LSM out. but nah.

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Its going down for sure, more idols are going to keep leaving, I see NCT suing for their freedom too.

They couldn't not resign because it's said that legally, their contracts extend to many more years (17-18 years) until a given number of albums is released, it's not about the years, it's about the number of albums to be released according to the contracts signed.

Kai must have felt so bad.

This is so frustrating.

I always look for the good things in everything that happens but even I can't find anything good about this.

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I think one of the good things, is that if the lawsuit goes well, they could have a peace of mind, and not be trapped. Being trapped and not being paid? especially when one of the members are a family man now? Sounds like financial hell.