Is SMNGG SM's last chance to get a leader #1 girl group of their generation?

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but neither ive or nj tour yet

and its not like aespa and ive/nj sales are like 1m difference is barely like 400k, ive even sold close to 1.8m and god know how much will nj sales if one single sold like 1.2-3m, in comparison nj charting internationally to other ggs make them look funny

and btw its not just this forum saying this, knetz think the same

400k is still a huge differences tho. And why people calling snsd a monster physical seller back then when their album sales is ahead everyones like the amount you mention back then? But well, if you guys wanna be fair, let just wait for every gg reach their 5th year to determine which gg’s deserve the title.

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400k is still a huge differences tho. And why people calling snsd a monster physical seller back then when their album sales is ahead everyones like the amount you mention back then? But well, if you guys wanna be fair, let just wait for every gg reach their 5th year to determine which gg’s deserve the title.

great, see u in 2028

Some groups are on their 4th album or title release now, so have had more albums and a longer time to establish themselves.

You need to look at the album sales growth trajectory. One of the groups highly touted, their growth has shockingly slowed and by a lot. If you also look at the sales pattern for that particular group, they are different to the rest of the industry, even though many groups use the same distributor.

NJs are setting all the 1st album and 2nd album records, and similarly LSF when they do their release before NJs, so by the time they reach their 4th or 5th album, it is going to exceed the others.

Also consider, Korea is just a tiny market, and maybe only contributes 1-2% of profits for groups like Twice and BP. So you need to also look at concept and what is popular globally, and also the company in terms of their experience at growing a group globally.

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It's been almost 2 decades since SM had an undisputed #1 GG. RV came in #3 after Twice/BP, Aespa came in #3 after IVE/NJ. SM 3.0 doesn't have the same power as they had years ago, and once Sooman's Chinese company groups start eating up SM group album sales in China they will be in a weaker position. SM will still be around, but will be far removed from their glory days. Do you think SMNGG is their last chance to claim the #1 spot again or has that ship already sailed? Judging from what I know so far, seems very unlikely. Their best chance was Lami but the idol life wasn't for her.

Aespa came before IVE/NJ. Aespa was #1, but with the mismanagement of aespa and the rise in numerous gg, aespa's popularity dwindled.

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and that put ive and nj in other tier

u remember very specific thing but nothing i said come from thin air

and nj havent even cmb after their biggest hits, u want numbers that annoy EVERYBODY

bc those will be ones to look up for and then we can talk about the "tier" thing

First I been saying that i don't care about rankings but I don't like when someone putting down aespa

Whatever you saying, aespa still has the biggest sales and touring numbers. You always putting down and putting them in lower tier because of Spotify streams and yt likes. I already told you, this and that but it's seem you don't want to care and know about it

Like I 'm 100% sure they will achieved good numbers in Spotify if Warner/SM investing more in paid playlisting and Spotify algorithm. However by that time SM decided to do that, you will saying that Spotify achievement are irrelevant just like how yt views are irrelevant now when SM started to paying ads.

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Albums hardly matter when the ones setting records aren't my faves

My faves are bp and they still got the highest selling gg album and not at discount prices so...

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My faves are bp and they still got the highest selling gg album and not at discount prices so...

You're caring too much about 4th gen leader discussion for a fan 3rd gen fan, chill

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Lmao. Just like is said why is SNSD still being call as No 1 gg when there lots of gg who is more above than them in term of digital back then? To be no 1 gg is not just on digital, there got album sales, tours and everything . And more importantly is IMPACT. So far base on impact, it aespa who lead 4th gen atm.

Sorry but you are delusional, yes SNSD were overall #1 of their gen but aespa nowhere close to that. They don't last more than a day on spotify chart whereas you can even add lsrf to ive and newjeans who do much better.

I don't see the impact anywhere

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You're caring too much about 4th gen leader discussion for a fan 3rd gen fan, chill

I can give my opinion about whatever I want, don't need your permission. I stated something based off factual data which is streams, stop quoting if you are gonna deflect.

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I can give my opinion about whatever I want, don't need your permission. I stated something based off factual data which is streams, stop quoting if you are gonna deflect.

You were the first one ignoring a kind of data just because it doesn't contribute to your narrative

Everyone's #1 in my heart

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You were the first one ignoring a kind of data just because it doesn't contribute to your narrative

It's not about ignoring it, sure it's a big way for kpop to make money. Doesn't change that it's not the way people consume music nowadays. Streams should 100% be what determines the biggest k acts

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My faves are bp and they still got the highest selling gg album and not at discount prices so...

Spicy is MINI album

Everybody had 40% discount links from Ktown4u

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Spicy is MINI album

Everybody had 40% discount links from Ktown4u

Explain IFPI last year

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Explain IFPI last year

SM didn't send their album data to IFPI because no SM artist on IFPI list

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What make you think NJ and Ive ahead of aespa? Digital wise?? Am fan of SNSD but isn’t their digital lack to 2ne1, t ara back then yet STILL no 1 gg atm? And why SISTAR too is not no 1 gg when they own every gg’s with their digital?? aespa might be lack digitally compare to NJ and Ive but they ahead both group in term of physical sales and tours. Impact on their list too. Lmao. Stupid ass thread

nj are known worldwide fyi spotify bb100 leading next comeback might push physical too aespa is just known in china and then korea all of their albums came from china bulk buying while nj is wordclass known in everywhere