Why I turned away from Kpop

  • When I first got into Kpop, I loved it.

    I listened to music, enjoyed the MVs, bought albums of many different groups and had a great time watching their content.


    Then I made a big mistake: I started interacting with other fans and reading what they had to say.

    I have never in my life seen such petty hatred for people they don't even know as from Kpop fandoms.

    And it wasn't just the big fandoms either: small fandoms squabbling the moment their faves got some success and then hating artists of other fandoms, wishing they would do badly.


    The desire for artists, who are actual people, to make mistakes and have scandals that ruin them was disgusting to see. Even when I looked on sites with news articles, I still see lots of hateful comments from people, delighting when an artist, group or fandom has a setback.


    I had one group I liked more than the others, so I figured: what if I just support the girls and stay within that fandom, it might be all right.

    No. Even between fans of the individual members, there was and probably is still constant hate that is often even more intense than the pathetic fights between different fandoms.


    And whether it is about fights between fandoms or within fandoms, people always had the same excuse for behaving like trash: "But they do it too". No, idiot, you make your own choices and you are choosing to be a piece of crap.


    I am now at the point that I removed most Kpop from my playlists. I also stopped buying albums and I did that quite often.

    Fandoms shouldn't disrupt one's love for something, but Kpop fandoms managed it.

    If you ever wonder why not more people are supporting your faves, it might be because you turned people off with your stupid, pathetic fanwars.


    Hopefully, I will regain my love for Kpop some time and I hope that the non-toxic fans will prevail some day. If you are a non-toxic fan, I wish you well.

    If you delight in people having setbacks or being toxic, you are dumb and pathetic. Grow up.

  • I feel like this occasionally. Honestly the best times for me are when I just watch content without reading comments and interact with fans. But going to social media platforms is addicting (in a bad way). I like to think that most fans are like that but we obviously only see the ones sharing their toxic opinions 24/7.

    I mean casual fans seem to be the majority because when you see a group getting too much hate on socials you think their career ended, but then they do a concert or go anywhere and you see how many people turn up for them and probably never heard of the controversy. So the majority are not the toxic chart/sales/scandals-obsessed bunch.

                                                   


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  • People are trolling and fighting even outside of kpop. It does not matter if you are discussing politics, video games, sport or even investing into stocks. Some people are always fighting and talking trash everywhere. You just have to take it as grain of salt.

  • well said.


    and to add to that, charting/achievements are hardly influenced by song quality itself. instead, they are influenced by (1) fandom size, (2) extent of playlisting, (3) whether the song happens to go viral on tiktok, and (4) whether the "gp" considers the group to be trendy. crappy songs topping charts just give kpop a bad name when non-kpop listeners check out songs which are supposedly the best of kpop.

  • No one has a gun against your head to participate in fandom life. It’s so easy to avoid and social media gives us so many tools.


    Why would you let anyone else ruin something you like. Could never be me.


    I mean I understand that some people can be influenced like that but I just feel it’s not worth it lol.

  • I consider myself to be one of the non toxic ones, always have been. Drama and trolling has never been my style and I agree with the points you have made. I feel the same actually having been into K pop since 2011. Groups I stanned have come and gone or disbanded and current group's music has declined somewhat in my opinion. I'm also a mature aged fan and a bit out of the norm. None of the group's comebacks have done anything for me and to be fair, only Twice is delivering the goods. As with a lot of things, K pop is profits before people and the group's end up being sold by their companies. I am not as passionate as I used to be and have deleted a lot of songs from my playlist as well. Songs I used to like have been played that much that now they just become annoying. I am just one of those casual listeners nowadays.

  • People are trolling and fighting even outside of kpop. It does not matter if you are discussing politics, video games, sport or even investing into stocks. Some people are always fighting and talking trash everywhere. You just have to take it as grain of salt.

    I have had several hobbies and interests, but never saw the same kind of pathetic hatred and desire for people to be dragged for the dumbest reasons as in Kpop.


    Dating-"scandals", lazy-"scandals" and other "scandals" about things that Western people normally don't care the smallerst bit about when it concerns a Western celebrity, but they are then happy to drag artists or fandoms for when it comes to Kpop artists.

    Drag, drag, drag and that disgusting delight when they find some reason to be hateful when someone has an off-day and fails at the smallest thing. Worst are the solo stans dragging other members that are in the same group as their fave.


    Stuff no normal person cares about, become topics for huge fanwars and reasons to insult hardworking artists they never met.


    Just ugh.

  • Thank you for signing up to a kpop forum to tell everyone why you're tired of kpop. The world is now a better place.

    You're very welcome.


    If it bothers you, take delight in the knowledge that it doesn't bother you nearly as much as years of pathetic fanwars and hatred by pathetic people towards hard working artists and other fandoms have bothered me for years.

  • you should never turn away
    just ignore or
    as possible
    don't engage from kpop discussion or read negative fan comments

    maybe
    practice tolerance?

    you accept another's ideas and beliefs.(even non sense or full of hate?)

    If you respect someone's opinions — even if you disagree or find them nonsensical — you display tolerance

  • I understand you perfectly OP. I usually take long breaks from this forum and I've curated my social medias to avoid any unnecessary fan wars. Fortunately, nothing has taken away the joy of listening to music because that's all I really care about in the end.


    I've learned that it is perfectly fine to enjoy something quietly without being involved in a fandom or up-to-date with anything they do, that doesn't make you or anyone else any less of a fan.

  • give yourself some time and space bro. In the mean time try to enjoy some of your other hobbies or pick up more like anime, drawing or whatever you like. When you've spent enough time without it you will on your own start to crave a bit again and be able to enjoy it like you did in the start. Idk much abt what kpop discord or whatever are like but be wise with which community you surround yourself with especially on twitter.

    idk its extremely easy to listen to and enjoy the music without caring about the idols or their fans

    that's true especially if you don't involve yourself in fan communities and stuff

  • Never had this issue because i don't care for fandoms or kpop that much, to me kpop is just entertainment and some cool music here and there. I've been to exo BTS Ateez SHINee etc concerts and fansigns and never once was a single fuck given about the fandom or what fans do or did. I have already known kpop fans to be quite bad so never got involved with it, including avoiding the cesspools of Twitter and the like.

    I was the one man that would literally show up up to tell Yoongi he was cute while also wearing whatever the hell i thought was cool like my SHINee hoodie, not once thinking if wearing different fandom stuff was ok🤣 . Only bought the thing because it looked nice and I was a little cold that day 🤣. So while fans were squabbling over each other or fighting etc I'm just enjoying the actual idols and occasionally meeting them. My favorite interaction will always be Taemin.

  • Thank you for the mostly nice responses. As I said, if you are a non-toxic fan, I wish you well.



    No one has a gun against your head to participate in fandom life. It’s so easy to avoid and social media gives us so many tools.


    Why would you let anyone else ruin something you like. Could never be me.


    I mean I understand that some people can be influenced like that but I just feel it’s not worth it lol.

    Funny. I have actually tried that. Blocking people and trying to find non-toxic people to follow, but somehow I kept seeing negative stuff and fanwar shit on my time line, mostly from fans of artist A saying horrible stuff about her members and the other way around. Not going to say the fandom specifically, as I have seen shit in basically every fandom and I don't want to make it about one fandom.


    Stopped going to that social media. Let's read Kpop articles on Kpop websites instead. Wait, there are plenty of toxic comments there too or even in the articles themselves there are mentions of fanwars. So, cannot read articles anymore about Kpop either. Watching Youtube then. Too bad, people talking shit there as well.

    Join a forum group devoted to my number 1 group, even on a small forum? They start fighting about stuff as well, because member A has better clothes and is treated as the favorite by the company and drag drag drag.


    I now associate Kpop so much with toxicity that I find no joy in it anymore.

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