Posts by Exo_bunnie

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This is the thing that gets me. People cry about Israel this that when you look at how Gaza is given much more aid by the UN than any other country yet they spend that money and resources on weapons instead of improving Gaza

People complain omg Israel bombing XYZ. Well what do you want them to do ask nicely? These people do not think like you, their values are entirely different than your's besides they embedded their assets into civilian structures. They use human shields unfortunately there will always be collateral damage when cowards continue to employ this method

Question. How can people improve when they are living under oppression?

Really? We don't know the content of the contract. This is pure speculation. Must we go there?

This is what I wanted to see. Harmony between SM and Exo whether they leave or stay. Thank you Do.

I keep coming back to the album again and again. It's a no skip. Cinderella and Cream soda are still my fav. It's the best album of the year.

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glad you liked it very much it's really a no skip album what is your favourite

In no particular order Cinderella, Private Party, Regret it, Cream Soda , Hear me out.

Least fav Another Day. But I still like it.

This is the best album from them yet. It has complexity, layers, vocals and depth. I can say this is the first time almost all the songs on an album is my fav.

it sounds good.

Exo and R&B is the best. I love that Sehun starts the song though not technically which is a rarity. The harmonisation is like pure magic. I love this song. I'm so happy to hear Kai's voice. The Mv was minimalistic but ordinary chores and the happy vibes made it so chill. I liked that Kyungsoo was featured first. It almost makes up the lack of Kyungsoo's vocals. This song is on repeat. I can't wait for the album.

novemberrain thank you to you and the gals.

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Bunnie I don't know what to say but i'm sad and disappointed that instead of supporting cbx, you seem to be on SM's side. The boys obviously know what they would be up against and are currently risking their careers to speak up for the sake of their rights and for other artists with the same contracts.

You're essentially blaming them and saying that they shouldnt have signed contracts in the first place when its been mentioned time and time again how SM gaslighted the members especially baekhyun into signing the renewals in the first place. There's probably a lot more happening behind the scenes that we don't know about and the thing the boys need the most right now is support from their fans.

Of course you can have your own opinions but I just had to speak up as well. Even if they did sign a contract (willingly or not) they have the right to terminate it if SM didn't follow their side of the deal. The members gave SM a deadline and multiple trys to give them the settlement papers but its SM who is blindsiding the members and cheating them out of their rights and money. Idk how you can defend SM and say CBX are wrong and are trying to be "righteous" for calling out the unfairness and ILLEGAL practices from SM.

No one can tell you if you should be a fan or not but all i can say is that you're just becoming the person SM wants you to become. To blame cbx and pin this on them and that they will go down.

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I'm not saying I don't support cbx. I realised I am old. I come from a school whereby if you don't like your job. You quit quietly. But you don't say anything bad about your employer. If you talk bad about your employer, that will spread in a market that is quite small and your future employers will not hire you cause they are scare you will do the same to them and damage their reputation. Also, you leave in good taste and not burn your bridges with your employer because who knows you may need their help in the future. I believe Korea is still a conversative society. They are not like the Western culture where employees rights are more important than the company. Also, it is important to take care of yourself before things happen not after. That is why I am critising cbx for not taking care before signing a renewal contract. They should have known better.If they are blackmailed, they still should have seek a lawyer first. I was dissapointed to read that they negotiated the profit split lawyered up but not other terms then come around to say they were manupilated. I was upset and concern because they did all the things I feel they should not do because it will be hard for them in the future and they may even lose their career. They are trying to change one company not the industry. Is the pain worth it for one company? Perhaps only they can answer. But I also realised I'm old, if the youth wants to follow the hard path even if it means losing their career I should let them be and can only support them. After all, having their right is way more important than securing a long career.

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I was gonna be a silent reader here but this sentence got my blood boiling

Sticking up to your rights is not being righteous

Sacrificing your career by going against a huge and powerful corporation is not righteous

Fighting for better and more humane treatment is not righteous

This mindset of “don’t rock the boat” or “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” is the very thing that makes powerful people. more powerful. Sigh.

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Maybe I was wrong to use the word righteous, but hey you are right. It's up to them to sacrifice their career. Humane treatment and sticking up for your right is good also . doesn't matter if don't have a career for that. You can always change line.

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Even if they want to leave after the contract still their decision my dear. You are free to drop your support to them any time, no one is blocking you. However, everything the fandom do not need is your endless crying because you cannot have a comeback because of those evil CBX members who decided to leave Yada Yada.

So, I should just shut up and agree with the mass. Right?

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Girl, if they never renewed and EXO disbanded you would still be upset. Your priority is for them to keep releasing music to please you. You even suggested they should team up with Super Junior of all things

CBX wants to leave. If you're not ready to accept and support this please just remove this Baekhyun DP and leave the fandom, you won't be missed

Just because you don't agree with me, you have not right to dictate what are my opinions and whether I should leave the fandom. I'm not so blind to say they did everything right just because they are my favs. If Cbx wants to leave, they should have left before renewing. That is my opinion. My world also doesn't revolve around Exo. If they disband, my world will still go on. I also do not know them personally to know their motives in quiting. Their job is to entertain me. So what if I care about that. As for Super Junior I didn't say they should them up with them. If they are not so righteous maybe they can learn some survival tips from them.

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I may not agree with all of your views regarding CBX.

But the world is super harsh and both parties look at their own benefit at the end of the day.

But I still believe that CBX are at a huge disadvantage.

I've been accused of being a sad fan. The reason why I'm so pissed with Cbx is because history has shown itself what damages suing can do to idols. They are brave but if they never renew, they wouldn't have to face the backlash which to me if can be avoided, should be avoided. So many ppl here are idealistic. But you have to take the hit for a ideal which in the end you may end up with nothing but an ideal.

anyone who says profit is not the reason a company is running has never sat in top management. Unless you are a charity, the only reason why a business is run is money. Where do you think the money to pay salaries and bonus, rental and other commitment come from? Thin air?

I knew this would happen when you burn bridges with the company. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, all kinds of ugly things get thrown around.

At my age, you are only a victim if you let yourself become one.

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Ah the victim blaming

Call it that if you will.

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Not even the court ruled them wrong, but you are already ruling them wrong?

If the contract is illegal, then it doesn't matter if they signed it.

Also SM already broke one of the clause by not being transparent about their payment.

And the initial contact didn't even end for the new one to take place.

CBX have many points supporting their case, they didn't lose the lawsuit yet.

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Not ruling them wrong. Like I said all the details are not there. Some said they sign something. Some say not. If the contract does not come into force then, then its okay. The whole point of all my post is point out it is foolish if you signed a contract without knowing all the details. Then later turn back and cry cause it wasn't what you wanted and you have to sue to terminate. I'm not going to sugar coat it and say it is just a mistake, they were gaslighted and I should be understanding. The boys aren't rookies anymore who don't know any better. The are grown adults and richer than me. They can afford legal counsel. They have friends in the industry to ask. If it was a slave contract in the first place. Why sign it? Did Sm put a gun to their head? They already had the Chinese members as examples.

As a fan, siding or not siding Cbx is not going to make them win. SM is a big bad corporation. So is 99% of the corporation out there. Ultimately, it comes down to what is in the contract. The court will side who the contract favors.

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Wow. Your response really shows why SM will win.

I can’t wow.

Exo deserves better fans. I’m sad for them.

No. I'm just realistic. If cbx can be an exception in a cruel world, then of course I'll be happy for them.