What happens to most idols would be called exploitation by Western standards but fans like to keep quiet

  • Imagine the countless amount of idols and trainees who are in huge debt to their companies. They get promised fame and fortune (yet it's like a 1 in 100 chance they make it), they waste their youth and their prime years under the thumb of old Korean men and their manager minions, they sign non-disclosure agreements so they literally will get sued to jail if they divulge any potentially incriminating details. And when it comes to paying off the debt y'all don't even want to think what they might have to do since part-time work isn't even enough to pay a living wage. So everything is secret and there's no transparency. They just get called flops and forgotten.


    This is the dark side of what it means to fail in kpop, which is true for the majority of idols. Kpop fans just do a bit of token stanning, then move on to their Big company biases. I feel most sorry for those groups (ie. Weeekly, Loona, Pristin, STAYC, etc) who got gaslighted by token stans into believing they will be the "next big thing" only to have their company over-invest in them and not see any returns. And in the end just increasing their debt. Meanwhile groups that are already successful just keep getting richer and richer. Kpop is patriarchy and capitalism in it's purest form.

  • True, it is one of the secrets of Korean business success, employee rights are not as advanced in Korea (and Japan) as their are in the west.


    Business are able to squeeze a lot from their employees.



    But the rich getting richer, that is just how the world works, kpop is no different.

  • Imagine the countless amount of idols and trainees who are in huge debt to their companies. They get promised fame and fortune (yet it's like a 1 in 100 chance they make it), they waste their youth and their prime years under the thumb of old Korean men and their manager minions, they sign non-disclosure agreements so they literally will get sued to jail if they divulge any potentially incriminating details. And when it comes to paying off the debt y'all don't even want to think what they might have to do since part-time work isn't even enough to pay a living wage. So everything is secret and there's no transparency. They just get called flops and forgotten.


    This is the dark side of what it means to fail in kpop, which is true for the majority of idols. Kpop fans just do a bit of token stanning, then move on to their Big company biases. I feel most sorry for those groups (ie. Weeekly, Loona, Pristin, STAYC, etc) who got gaslighted by token stans into believing they will be the "next big thing" only to have their company over-invest in them and not see any returns. And in the end just increasing their debt. Meanwhile groups that are already successful just keep getting richer and richer. Kpop is patriarchy and capitalism in it's purest form.

    Omg plus a good amount of these fans are fake woke af hypocrites. They will cry to the hills about an idol jokingly calling his or her friend a pig or if they wore a certain hairstyle. Or lose their shit over a cheating/dating scandal. BUT remain totally silent about how damaging kpop is. The idols including the successful one's have gone through terrible shit not including the dark side of kpop from debt, abuse and other things.


    Fans are quiet about this stuff. Look at Omega X besides it's own fans where was all the woke stans for some boy group being abused and sexual assaulted by their female ceo? Radio fuckin silent even when the shit was on surveillance cameras in a forgien country in which the bitch fled the country and outside pressure got the members to leave the safety of the United States. Because at the time the police were called multiple times and an investigation had begun because the responding officers noticed signs of abuse, because of the nature of them being forgieners stuff moved a little slower but had they stayed a day longer LAPD would have gotten the boys and the CEO would have been extradited.


    Then we have fans and akgaes who abuse the groups they "stan" are fake woke about mental health and suicide yet are the number 1 cause of both of those things. From idol bashing to nugu and flop success stan trolling among other things. Spreading rumors and not letting them date etc.

    Idols put up with alot behind the scenes and fans are often the straw that break's the Camel's back. Alot of the fake woke hypocrite are the definition of it they won't address a problem because now it directly affects them

  • But what happens to western musicians can be classified as exploitation as well, just different system. You think signing contract with big recording company like sony or warner with 6 digit figure in dollar means all money going to the artist? No. Many musicians have posted how money distributed for their career on socials and all of them ended up in loss if they don’t take advertisement or open crowd-funding.


    Not to mention crime that happened upon kpop idols we see, had and always been happening to US musicians. It’s all organized and systematic.


    Music industry operates at the basis that “musicians only want fame and good looks from their passion” it is build on exploitation, western or eastern countries. Demonizing kpop without acknowledging the toxic environment of music industry at large (because kpop is integral part of it) just sounds like a hollow concern.

  • But what happens to western musicians can be classified as exploitation as well, just different system. You think signing contract with big recording company like sony or warner with 6 digit figure in dollar means all money going to the artist? No. Many musicians have posted how money distributed for their career on socials and all of them ended up in loss if they don’t take advertisement or open crowd-funding.


    Not to mention crime that happened upon kpop idols we see, had and always been happening to US musicians. It’s all organized and systematic.


    Music industry operates at the basis that “musicians only want fame and good looks from their passion” it is build on exploitation, western or eastern countries. Demonizing kpop without acknowledging the toxic environment of music industry at large (because kpop is integral part of it) just sounds like a hollow concern.


    There are plenty of YT videos that showcase how Western labels exploit local acts. Unless you're one of the very very lucky few who've reached the superstar level like Sheehan, Bieber, Swift, Rihanna, Bey, Adele, Gaga, and Grande, you are going to be mired in exploitative debt your whole career.

  • As expected, the "but but... the western music industry is just as bad, if not worse" responses. When y'all are the ones consuming kpop

    no, western comparison were brought up because your title is literally "What happens to most idols would be called exploitation by Western standards but fans like to keep quiet" when western standards is abysmal.


    i know reading comprehension is deliberately low in this site but this is hilarious


    it's even more hilarious that you're expecting kpop fans to feel guilt for consuming kpop when labor exploitation happens everywhere. if kpop fans stops paying their content legally, these underage people will be drown in even more debt and pursued to more dubious industry. sometimes kpop fans support their nugu faves exactly because they know that's the only solution to keep them afloat.

  • no, western comparison were brought up because your title is literally "What happens to most idols would be called exploitation by Western standards but fans like to keep quiet" when western standards is abysmal.


    i know reading comprehension is deliberately low in this site but this is hilarious


    it's even more hilarious that you're expecting kpop fans to feel guilt for consuming kpop when labor exploitation happens everywhere. if kpop fans stops paying their content legally, these underage people will be drown in even more debt and pursued to more dubious industry. sometimes kpop fans support their nugu faves exactly because they know that's the only solution to keep them afloat.

    I'm saying kpop isn't much better or any better than what occurs in the West, and we don't know how bad it is because in kpop they are able to clamp down on almost everything that happens on the inside. And I thought most kpops fans were the the bleeding heart lefty woke types who always find something wrong they have to "correct" yet they clearly ignore the most obvious element that's right in front of them.


  • As expected, the "but but... the western music industry is just as bad, if not worse" responses. When y'all are the ones consuming kpop

    so we need a new revolution after blackpink?

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