do u think idols get a pay cut when they get into scandals

unless it was contracted in, it could count as workplace retaliation.

Maybe their bonus (if they have one) might be snuffed tho.

I doubt it, you don't get a pay cut if you did something wrong at work, you either lose your job or they just brush it off, pretty much what happens in kpop.

Plus how does one even determine the amount of cut to do in a scandal. Is it temporary, is it permanent? Is the cut based on how big of an effect the scandal has on the group? Is there a formula to figure this out? It's very complicated lol

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Is there a formula to figure this out? It's very complicated lol

If there are a formula to calculate that, it means that the company are hoping or expecting that a scandal would happen.

Which is weird.

Unless that company can manipulate that scandal into their favor later on

The normal thing to do is preventing a scandal, so it would never happened in the first place.

But you know, maybe you also could count a pay cut for a scandal as a fine for damage done to the company. So the artist should pay either with their own money or deducted from their paycheck or something

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If there are a formula to calculate that, it means that the company are hoping or expecting that a scandal would happen.

Which is weird.

Unless that company can manipulate that scandal into their favor later on

The normal thing to do is preventing a scandal, so it would never happened in the first place.

But you know, maybe you also could count a pay cut for a scandal as a fine for damage done to the company. So the artist should pay either with their own money or deducted from their paycheck or something

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Yea, given how short lived groups are, it is in the companies best interest to prevent any scandals in the first place. The "fine" would be miniscule compared to the potential loss if any momentum is loss from the group.

The only time I see a company wanting a scandal is for small groups and the scandal could boost their popularity and put them in front of the people.

Idk, I'll just say yes because no one else has

but seriously though, i do agree with the points brought up in this thread but i doubt companies are giving idols who aren't actively making them money full payment

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The "fine" would be miniscule compared to the potential loss if any momentum is loss from the group.

Yes, and that's why sometime it ends with kicking the member to save the group.

Something like contract penalty? then yes.

a bunch of em just get cut out of the group straight up

I don't know in Kpop, but I've seen it a few times in Jpop. For example, when his contract was canceled after he secretly got married without informing company, Akanishi Jin had to pay Johnnys all the expenses of the tour that was planned but was canceled.

could be for contract breach if their is a scandal. The company you would just get the payment from him to pay other companies.

i don't think so since idols work to a different contract where they get a part of their profit, they aren't normal workers with a montly fee, depends how big the scandal is, the company can end the contract if they want or if they badly want to punish them, they could as well not give them work (which happen at times when there is a big scandal)

Yes
I prefer this penalty
imagine If Garam or Soojin
will pay the penalty of 30-40% of their income?
donate to charity
instead of kick out of the group?

I think their pay will be their in their contract? Maybe something like bonus and other stuff can be cut but not base pay?

No but I think they should.

the pay cut is when you have to go on hiatus for a few months to "reflect" on your actions

it depends on their contract and their countries employment laws