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Ah, I see. That makes sense then. I find it hard to see why someone reacting to music videos wouldn't be copyrighted. Even if they were to mute out the audio, companies can still copyright the video itself (trust me, I've encountered where companies would copyright the video as well). And even if they did mute the audio or not show the video, it would still detract from the whole point of it. So that, I can definitely understand.

Interesting...

I wouldn't know since I don't use TikTok and my source of those videos is YouTube Shorts or big YouTubers reacting to TikTok compilations (like SSSniperwolf or KallMeKris) because that's also a big thing these days apparently, so I'm used to videos being reacted to there.

But how does copyrighting TikTok videos work and what sort of content would it be? I don't really know since it's a platform where you can recycle others' uploaded sounds and do the split screen reactions.

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Everything uploaded to TikTok is considered copyrighted automatically.

In your settings for your TikTok account, there is somewhere where you can make it where people cannot save or download your videos. Meaning you are telling TikTok you don't give people permission to use your copyrighted content. People can still screen record your content and repost it, but that violates TikTok's ToS, so if you catch people doing that, you can report them and TikTok will take it down and possibly deactivate the violating account.

So, people can still screen record your content without your permission, and post it somewhere else outside of TikTok to do whatever they want with it, you would just have find it and report it enough times and provide evidence that you own it as copyrighted content and the person is using it without your permission. Thing is, there are millions of YouTube channels and videos, so a person may not always know that happened to their content.

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Very interesting...

I was reading that Spotify pays their artisrs anywhere from $0.001 to $0.008 USD per stream which isn't jack squat. And the artists are paid 70% of that where their side has to pay Spotify 30% of their stream money. So even if you have millions of Spotify streams, it is nothing.

So imagine having to divde that 70% of nothing among all members, everyone who worked on making the song happen and the company. The members would get close to nothing.

Literal pennies, that's what most artists make these days. And if you're stuck in a Kpop slave contract or the 365 contract in the US, you're lucky to even make those pennies.

That's why folks bragging about YT, Spotify, and other streams are missing the point, none of those things truly benefit your faves. Even BILLIONS of streams trickle down into only thousands of dollars for each member after everyone gets their cut.

I've read that Kpop idols only make like 10-15 percent of the revenue from album sales. That's a tiny fraction, plus you have to divide that by 5, 6, 7, 9, 12 or however big the group is. But even this amount is far superior to having to earn fractional pennies from streams. If i'm an idol and i only care about money, i'm taking a large loyal fandom ANY DAY over GP streams or song popularity. Those boys at Seventeen, NCT, BTS, EXO, SKZ, TXT, and Enhypen, as well as the million sellers in BP, Twice, Itzy, Ive, and Aespa have got it made.

Sell 1M per comeback which amounts to 2M per year. Multiplied by 12 bucks per album avg price, and you end up with 24 million in total gross revenue. If you get 12 percent of that, that's 2.88 million for the group. Divide that by 6 members and you get almost 500k per member. Do that over a 5 year peak and you can save up a healthy chunk of change without counting the ancillary money from digitals, endorsements, fan merch, concerts, etc.

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Everything uploaded to TikTok is considered copyrighted automatically.

In your settings for your TikTok account, there is somewhere where you can make it where people cannot save or download your videos. Meaning you are telling TikTok you don't give people permission to use your copyrighted content. People can still screen record your content and repost it, but that violates TikTok's ToS, so if you catch people doing that, you can report them and TikTok will take it down and possibly deactivate the violating account.

So, people can still screen record your content without your permission, and post it somewhere else outside of TikTok to do whatever they want with it, you would just have find it and report it enough times and provide evidence that you own it as copyrighted content and the person is using it without your permission. Thing is, there are millions of YouTube channels and videos, so a person may not always know that happened to their content.

Woah, I didn't know that!!

So you're saying that a lot of YouTubers who react to TikTok content are technically showing and reacting to a lot of copyrighted content?

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Woah, I didn't know that!!

So you're saying that a lot of YouTubers who react to TikTok content are technically showing and reacting to a lot of copyrighted content?

Yes, they are.

But, there is a lot that goes into it.

1. Like, the fact that TikTok is a Global app and so is YouTube. Different countries have different laws when it comes to copyright. This can affect how copyright is enforced across platforms and accounts. What I am talking about specifically is US law.
2. If you set it so you allow people to use your copyrighted content by allowing them to save and download your copyrighted material, then that may act as permission for them to use that content. Specifically for commercial use (as in content you can monetize). I am not a lawyer, so I am not 100% sure on the ends and outs of that. It may depend. Just like how music artists allow TikTokers to use their music (copyrighted content), and some allow you to use it for commercial use while others do not.
3. There is also something called the "Fair Use" policy where in certain countries you are allowed to use copyrighted content for "criticism, comment, news reporting, parody, etc." So, certain YouTube videos may also fall under that umbrella. Whether you can monetize those videos, not sure.

Like I said, it just depends. Though most TikTokers are just regular everyday people, so most of them won't go out of their way to stop people from using their content. The more people who use their content, the more popular they become (unless someone steals their content ideas, reproduces it, and does not give them credit, which happens a lot), which is what most people on TikTok want. The only people who may actually care are the people who do TikTok as a living, and I am sure those people have a legal team that makes sure their content is not commercialized without their permission.