Has the addition of Youtube music made this era the hardest period in history since 2015 to get a PAK?

    Is this the hardest time to get a PAK since the addition of Youtube Music? 16

    1. Yes (12) 75%
    2. No (4) 25%

    Since youtube music was added, PAKs are notably harder to get now, as there is an actual hard cap set on the number of chances that you get to reach #1 on all charts: 52 a year- since Youtube music updates only once a week. If you don't get #1 on youtube that week, sorry. Gotta wait 7 days.


    For context, there have been 3 PAKs this year. INVU, Tomboy, and Still life. Still life was the only one post youtube. Notable hits that did not get PAK since Youtube: Love Dive, Attention, After Like, Pink Venom. Right now PV is blocking AL from PAK and there's no way for AL to overcome this hurdle until Sunday or whenever Youtube updates... and by that time something else may very well shoot up to the top in Youtube streaming *cough*KEY*cough* in the meantime. Or PV could continue blocking for an entire week in an instant.


    Edit: It has been brought to my attention that Tomboy has a PAK with Youtube. I'm not changing this initial post so feel free to laugh at my mistake.


    Edit 2: More context:

    Liste des Perfect All-kills
    Voici la liste des perfect all-kills obtenus depuis 2010.
    k-pop.fandom.com


    List of PAKs by year:

    2010: 2

    2011: 10

    2012: 6

    2013: 11

    2014: 5

    2015: 8

    2016: 18

    2017: 16

    2018: 13

    2019: 6

    2020: 7

    2021: 7

    2022 (as of Sept 1st): 3

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    Quote from throwaway2691

    Since youtube music was added, PAKs are notably harder to get now, as there is an actual hard cap set on the number of chances that you get to reach #1 on all charts: 52 a year- since Youtube music updates only once a week. If you don't get #1 on youtube that week, sorry. Gotta wait 7 days.

    Correction - Tomboy was the first song to PAK with youtube added to instiz.

    Also to the topic at hand.


    No. In previous years the charts were far more dynamic - you had to be absolutely smoking the competition, and even then some random BG on Bugs or Soribada would block (think that happened to BP).


    Bug's have done a cleanup of their charts/downloads recently, so even with YT, it's relatively easy to PAK


    What's changed is release dates, with many moving to a Friday. Since most of them count weekly and update over the weekend, Friday Releases are generally asynchronous to charting peaks/patterns.


    EG BP - released on a friday, IVE released 3 days later. Previously they would have been almost a week apart and perhaps PV would have had a PAK.

    There were 18 PAks alone in 2016. 16 in 2017, and 13 in 2018. If anything the rate of PAKs has actually slowed. Only 2010 (if you count that), 2012 and 2014 had lower PAKs than the last 4 years. Now COVID may have played a factor, mind.

  • throwaway2691

    Changed the title of the thread from “Has the addition od Youtube music made this the hardest period in history since 2015 to get a PAK?” to “Has the addition of Youtube music made this era the hardest period in history since 2015 to get a PAK?”.

    Does it effect things if the group has multiple Music Video's for the same song like Hype Boy


    I feel YouTube views is such an unreliable way to measure success and we probably need to stop using it like that

    if a big group comeback with less competition, PAK is still possible


    Now the chart is so crowded, and each group are stronger in one area / one chart and not all. Hence it makes PAK difficutl. Same with clean sweep on music shows. It is doable if youre popular group but now NJ-BP-IVE are competing closely with Twice -im not even sure Twice can squeeze a trophy out from it. Just the thought of this makes this sounds so scary !!! (Twice always win music shows depsite flopping on chart eg scientist)

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