RE: "Should Jhope have served something like Nayeon - Pop?"
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aims for art and not charts", as though they are mutually exclusive.
Agree. Just because something charts well doesn't make it any less of an art. And just because it flopped doesn't mean it's an artistic risk either.
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Agree. Just because something charts well doesn't make it any less of an art. And just because it flopped doesn't mean it's an artistic risk either.
It is a delusional excuse by the fans and is actually disrespectful to J-hope.
As an artist he can experiment, but to allege that he doesn't care if the public does not like his work, is unhealthy.
Artists want to retain both integrity (i.e. what interests them in art) and also that it attains popularity (that they can shape public tastes).
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Artists want to retain both integrity (i.e. what interests them in art) and also that it attains popularity (that they can shape public tastes).
If all artists had that mentality I'd have almost nothing to listen to.
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It is a delusional excuse by the fans and is actually disrespectful to J-hope.
As an artist he can experiment, but to allege that he doesn't care if the public does not like his work, is unhealthy.
Artists want to retain both integrity (i.e. what interests them in art) and also that it attains popularity (that they can shape public tastes).
But the public likes his work, it's just that it isn't particulary a mainstream take.
It's like comparing Dynamite and Black Swan, both are liked, but one is obviously less of an effort of being a radio hit.
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But the public likes his work, it's just that it isn't particulary a mainstream take.
It's like comparing Dynamite and Black Swan, both are liked, but one is obviously less of an effort of being a radio hit.
Sure. Then why even bother with excuses like "arts and not charts".
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Sure. Then why even bother with excuses like "arts and not charts".
It's an expression. All music are art, but some have rather a more mainstream route than others, some have other goals than just being a fun bop, some want to convey a message... But I think people interpreted this as shade to Nayeon? Could be OP's goal, but I don't see it like this.
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I think the soundbyte is a reduction of,
"More is not a song that was ever going to top Melon weekly or even come close to doing so and everybody involved knew that and they released it anyway."
I don't think it matters what you call it.
But to answer the question, I'd rather listen to More 100 times in a loop than listen to Pop even once, so I think J-Hope should keep doing what he's doing.
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I read the context as that J-Hope's song did not perform to OP's expectations, therefore the excuse "art and not chart'", whereas Nayeon went with "charts may/may not be art"
If so, nobody can predict how and when the public taste will turn. Even fan tastes are constantly evolving, Not even veteran artists, else they will never fade.
So I see it as disrespectful to both artists and also the public,
To J-Hope, giving an impression that he intentionally wanted to release something that he already knew will not be popular with the public.
And to Nayeon, that she pandered to popular taste, rather than to artistic integrity
And for public, reeking of elitism, as though public is incapable of recognizing 'art'.
Maybe I am reading too much into the context.
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