RE : talent wise, ive is rather weak

they don't have any outstanding talent in the group but they have star power.

I did an anon thread once related to it

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What is IVE's strength as a group talent-wise?

In what they are good?

OP

Jan 25th 2022

Because I was really genuinely curious. From a non-fan's perspective I couldn't see in what they stand out talent-wise. Some answers were interesting. Recently I came to the conclusion they might not stand out in anything, talent-wise, but they are not terrible in anything either. They do a good job as dancers, singers, idol rappers and performers overall and that's fine.

They have decent singers and dancers with good music, this is enough.

it's true they aren't the most talented 4th gen gg but they have good songs and like you said get the job done

From what i've see and hear from them they're in the norm. It's rather the talent of some BIG4 groups that I find very exaggerated by the fans.

no singing, sloppy dancing, JAIL!!!!!!!

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literally this bc you'll have people assigning talents to different companies ☠️☠️ "jyp the dance company, sm the vocal company" I could throw up 😭😭

true when in reality it's more like this

HYBE => Women scandal company

SM => tax evasion company

YG => No comeback company

JYP => I try to kill my female idol from exhaustion company

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I'm a dive and I'll admit ive isnt the most talented group but that entire post seems like it was written by a my. I let the karina comment slide because neither gaeul or karina are stand out dancers but karina has had more opportunities to showcase her dancing so someone might feel like karina is a better dancer but how is Ive's rap line worse than aespa's (they're equal imo) and who's the rapper in aespa that's equal to soyeon?

I'll give this person props though. Atleast this thread was more lowkey than the "aespa is the best and you have to deal with it" anon thread.

imo giselle is better than rei at rapping (karina too). It's just that sm gives them many rap lines, making them seem worse than if they barely got any rap parts. imo, sometimes sm give their idols more rap parts than they can handle, making people diss giselle's rap when it's not even bad.

Dancing and especially performance wise (charms) IVE is better.

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I mean when none of them have actual technical skills to assess, it all comes down to taste. I find rei the best and I'd put karina over giselle.

I guess

Stans only care about talent only when it’s convenient for them.

You look at a most popular groups and only one or two are great great the rest are average. So I don’t know it’s a problem lol. Imo Rei is a solid rapper and she has a nice tone. Liz is a good singer not taeyeon’s level but it’s not like most 4th gen groups are that great either

When will people learn that having great vocals is not the main thing to be a top act? Even in the west, many legendary acts like Madonna, Britney, Michael, Elvis had ok vocals but their star power and showmanship were on another level. You need the whole package to be successful. If you have great vocals and beautiful face but look lifeless on stage and don’t have charming personality, not many would admire that.

As someone who got interested in IVE, the main reason for me is the charming girls and the music!! Eleven and Love Dive are different from a lot of current GGs songs is it’s so refreshing and addictive. The girls are also very good at facial expressions and show confidence during performances, very unrookie-like. It’s impressive.

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When will people learn that having great vocals is not the main thing to be a top act? Even in the west, many legendary acts like Madonna, Britney, Michael, Elvis had ok vocals but their star power and showmanship were on another level. You need the whole package to be successful. If you have great vocals and beautiful face but look lifeless on stage and don’t have charming personality, not many would admire that.

As someone who got interested in IVE, the main reason for me is the charming girls and the music!! Eleven and Love Dive are different from a lot of current GGs songs is it’s so refreshing and addictive. The girls are also very good at facial expressions and show confidence during performances, very unrookie-like. It’s impressive.

FINALLY! FINALLY! This is the response I have been waiting for my whole life!

me, reading this, knowing Eleven and Love Dive are two of the best kpop songs in existence: