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If soojin did shit talked about actress behind her back like calling her not pretty then it was definitely wrong and inappropriate but thing which makes me pissed off is the way this actress handled the issue.
If the accusations were just direct and straight up like this since beginning that soojin talked bad about actress behind her back instead of being vague and cryptic then this situation wouldn't had blown so much. Soojin would had just apologized for her mean behaviour and everyone would had moved on.
The thing which made this issue so big is the false accusations of school violence, physical assault, stealing etc were being made on her because of which soojin can't even apologize because those weren't even true. If that actress actually came forward and clarified the issue then it wouldn't had got so ugly.
Trying to destroy someone's career just because they allegedly talked bad about you behind your back 10 years ago when they were just kids is also not right in any way
Wait, I'm confused how it's still SSA's fault...? IF what SSA says is true, Soojin could've pre-empted all of this by admitting (like how she admitted to smoking a few times) that she had said some mean things when she was young and immature that might have hurt SSA but didn't do any of the other things. Instead she doubled down multiple times that she had no interaction with SSA and feigned confusion why SSA would call her out on instagram, even demanding that SSA make a public statement. That's why now it's not a great reflection on Soojin (IF what SSA says is true). Because if Soojin won't even admit or "remember" verbally harassing someone for over a year, how can we trust she doesn't remember any of the other more serious allegations.
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At the time "Celebrity" was released, the then-number 1 song on Melon had less than 300k ULs. "Rollin" has over 600k ULs. Healthy competition!
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I don't understand Cube wanting to meet with the alleged victims in person without Soojin - if they just want to "hear the facts" can't that be done legal team to legal team and if they are planning to pursue legal action, can't that also be done legal team to legal team... if Soojin is not there, what's the point of the victims being there either.
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Just look at first 24 hour unique listeners.
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This is just a recap of what's happened - no new information. Since Soojin's newest statement comprehensively denies all allegations, I wonder if actress Seo Shinae will speak up further since her name is getting explicitly tied with this controversy now. Tbh I'm surprised her instagram story is still public.
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Good job on missing the point. 10/10
the point is that IF these allegations are true, maybe soojin could've avoided all of this if she'd reached out to victims first to apologize instead of what's happening now. otherwise what evidence would we have that people had changed for the better?
fyi these allegations aren't just stolen lunch money stories :s someone who's willing to post their school attendance record claimed soojin stole an expensive winter coat from her and slapped her in the face. again we don't know if any of these things are true so we shouldn't make judgments on soojin but we also shouldn't downplay the actual allegations.
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I can understand people who want an apology. I don't condone the method though. These people don't live in a far away country. They all know where Soojin works, maybe even where she lives. They can easily go to her place, talk to her, see if she has changed. But they don't. Which tells me they're not out for an apology, they're out for a petty revenge. So I can't have much sympathy for them. There are other ways to do things. They didn't even try (we would already know otherwise).
I don't think the responsibility should be on the victims to seek an apology..... it should be on perpetrators to give one if they've truly changed and become better people.
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Same. Personally, I can say a LOT of people have done terrible things to me in middle school, but I'd rather they not lose their careers over it, especially when I know firsthand that most, if not all, of them have changed and become better people. It would be a different story if something happened one or two years ago.
the person who is accusing soojin of slapping her and stealing her expensive winter coat said that originally she wished gidle success when they debuted but wanted an apology from soojin. I agree that most people shouldn't lose their livelihoods over behavior as young teens but then they should try to make amends somewhere along the way, by their own initiative and not forced by public outrage. soojin has been a celebrity for years now.
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the debate never should have been on whether soojin did this but on whether it should even matter since this wasn't a crime and she was significantly younger.
some of the allegations are that she stole money and an expensive winter coat (north face) from someone and slapped them. those are considered crimes - the real question is why aren't there better laws to protect against those crimes happening in schools. the reason why school bullying is so sensitive to many korean netizens is because it's rampant in schools and yet perpetrators never get any legal punishment (at most they are usually forced to just transfer schools).
but just because someone got away with a crime because the law is weak does not mean that there still shouldn't be consequences.
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Was that really pulling a Reputation though....
Taylor literally shed her entire "girl-next-door" image for a much darker one. She was basically owning the reputation the media had given her and the entire album was like "idgaf"
I think the closest IU ever did to that was BBIBBI and maybe Twenty-Three. Still don't think it's on the level of Reputation though.
the chorus of "twenty-three" is literally "a bear pretending to be a fox pretending to be a bear" in response to netizen accusations that IU was a sly fox (hiding behind being an innocent/pure girl).
none of the other examples in this thread even come close. bragging to haters who called you a failure when you're now wildly successful is not at all the same thing as owning a bad reputation.
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isn't "celebrity" very different from anything else she's released.... IU's discography is actually pretty niche/genre-influenced (less pop overall but recent songs are definitely more pop-influenced). what's your definition of different - what everyone else in kpop is releasing?
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Celebrity isn't my favorite IU release by a long shot but it's a well-craft pop song with meaningful lyrics. IU does have a "trust and listen" relationship with the south korean GP but it's a relationship that's been built on a literal decade of nonstop hits. No one else in the country can claim that. So the question isn't really "is celebrity that good [to deserve all these accolades]" - it's more like "the song is catchy and IU sings it well" which is enough for an IU song to top the charts.
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Do ur research properly.
Ah sorry, I was mistaken - "Lovesick girls" DID stop "Dynamite"s PAK on Genie and Bugs and then the Refund Sisters song was released a week afterward.
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"Lovesick Girls" briefly stopped "Dynamite"s PAKs
but then Dynamite continued its PAK streak for weeks afterward.CORRECTION: LSG (and then combined with Refund Sisters) did stop Dynamite's streak.
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First, a disclaimer that I don't actually think the number of PAK hours means much - how long a song PAKs purely depends on chart competition at the time and what other songs are releasing. Second, chart reforms in recent years have made maintaining a PAK much easier because the charts are a lot more stable. Only real-time Genie and Bugs will occasionally succumb to zombie/fandom streamers now. This is proven by how most of the longest-running PAK streaks are all songs from the past 2 years.
Currently 1st place for PAK hours is BTS "Dynamite" with 610 hours. IU's "Celebrity" is in 2nd place with 385 PAKs and still counting. If "Celebrity" streak continues mostly unchecked, it will overtake "Dynamite" in around 10 days (sometime between February 27-28).
Ironically, Celebrity's biggest threat is probably IU's next release. IU finally dropped a teaser for her upcoming 5th full-album today, but did not specify a comeback date. If IU doesn't release her album in the next 2 weeks, "Celebrity" has a chance of claiming the top spot.
External Content twitter.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Will "Celebrity" hang on for 10 more days? Will it be IU that stops her own streak? Or will an unexpected dark horse rise up on the charts in the next 1-2 weeks?
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It's Melon's chart reform. Flo top 10 chart is also highly stable. Soon charting months at a time will just be commonplace for even mid-sized hit songs.
Don't touch me by refund sisters got a shitton of paks and it's now around top 60 lol. So yes the chart rewards steady popularity but not all songs have this kind of longevity
Everyone always uses "Refund Sisters" and "Beach Again" as examples of songs that hit #1 for a long time then dropped fast but both songs were for popular variety shows that then ended and stopped being buzzworthy. I've yet to see a non-variety show song hit explosive popularity and then drop fast down the chart.
Soojin's statement made it sound like she had not ever 
