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2019 being the worst year to a company and BP still survived all of that like YG never did the maximum to BP in terms of growth, putting them in big hiatus like.. they had the privilege of a big3 for sure, but this isn't everything. The girls being huge individually also helped them.
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I'm glad my opinion and objective analysis of just how privileged BP were since debut is the delineating factor for whether or not I'm a loser
I guess the truth is hurting too much right now, given how emotional you are.
Need a shoulder to lean on?
It's really not rocket science. YG himself admitted to using the 2NE1 formula when putting together BP. He just wanted them to be "pretty". That's it.
They're "pretty" 2NE1.
You are just repeating yourself, Yama.
2ne1 being marketed as the female BB and nobody is saying how they are all BB formula then
You must love 2ne1, I'm sorry they disbanded like that. Hope you heal whatever it's hurting you.
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I think a loser is someone who gets this emotional over celebs who don't know they exist
BP had the most company privilege of their generation and relied on it heavily to build their brand and fandom. That's just a fact. Your feelings of frustration over my calling that out is just a personal problem, champ.
I didn't make a thread bc blinks hurt my ego, Yama
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Please refrain from personal attacks in my thread. Let's keep it pleasant and respectful. It's just K-Pop. How can I be a sore loser? What do I get to win? Bragging rights...on AKP?
Hooray.
The YG girl group formula IS the 2NE1 formula. Any OG stan knows that 2NE1 did benefit from collaborating with Big Bang, and nobody claimed otherwise.
But YG himself said that he made no effort to differentiate BP from 2NE1. HE said that. And when he endlessly media played his next girl group, HE kept calling it the future 2NE1. Don't believe me?
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Yes, I know these girls ended up not debuting, but that's an example of how YG used 2NE1 literally to market his next girl group.
BP had a ton of privilege and there was next to nothing organic about them.
So I don't see why Blinks think they can waltz into NJ threads and throw rocks while knowing they live in a big ass glass house.
Oh, I'm not swearing, you being a loser is the same as saying Bang PD is ugly, just a reality.
2ne1 formula doesn't exist, what exist is that they are the first gg in YGE promoted that way and seeing how it was right and successful even now they aren't trying to change it. The same way 2ne1 had the privilege, BP did too, bc 2ne1 was their first gg after the massive success BB brought to them, the same way BP were their first gg in years, there isn't a difference here, just that BP got way bigger like obviously, kpop was growing. Treasure and Baemon were marketed as BB, BP juniors, etc, nothing weird, the same way NJ was marketed as BTS young sisters.
You trying to say YGE bought BP success is funny seeing BP numbers all match including their tours. But anyway, good luck coping..
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This is YG we're talking about. He was convicted of tax fraud. You don't think he did anything shady at all to push BP? Didn't a member get spotted meeting with a Spotify executive? Didn't they have ridiculous playlisting as well?
I don't care WHAT people are saying about NewJeans; I'm just questioning WHO is saying it
It's like watching a career criminal complaining about higher crime rates in his neighborhood.
The meeting in question wasn't a meeting, I'm sorry BP are friends with important people and this was when? In 2022? This wasn't in their debut year
And you acting like BP was the most promoted an pushed group when they were active
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I couldn't care less. I'm a MooMoo. I know what hard earned success looks and feels like. Mamamoo working their way up from a group that didn't chart and only sold 1k albums at debut to blocking BP on the charts, getting a PAK and become the girl group with the most cumulative unique listeners in Melon history? Now THAT'S organic.
BP is probably the least organic group I can think of. All they did was iterate on the 2NE1 formula and fill in the void they left behind.
I know this because YG literally said so himself.
You just hate BP seeing at this post.
And the so called 2ne1 formula is actually YGE formula that they'll try to have in all their ggs bc it's their image.
2ne1 having a collab with BB in their debut, Bom being promoted even before 2ne1 debuted and they always being connected to BB also made their debut easier. This isn't saying nobody worked hard to earn their spot, they all worked hard enough to deserve their debut and fame. You sound like a sore loser.
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That still pales in comparison to BLACKPINK, the first new girl group in an entire generation, with 2NE1 being the only other girl group formed and debuted under YG after the company joined the Big 3 and booted out DSP.
YG media played his next girl group for LITERALLY FOUR YEARS.
No third gen group had anywhere near that hype or privilege.
Oh, sorry the others didn't hype up their own groups then
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Where was the company privilege for LSF at debut if that can be used to explain, and really discredit, NewJeans? We already know BSH was playing favorites and wanted his girl group to be the best, and literally hated and ignored NewJeans, so make that make sense for me.
Also, I'm not toxic. I'm just honest.
Oh, they not disbanding due to the bullying scandal in their first week of debut is a privilege nugu groups can't afford, doing a doc to show they starting again as 5 and in the next cb doing good was all thanks to the company still investing in them.
NJ are a hybe group, obviously they have some privileges.
Everybody from the big4 has privilege just from having a company with money and willing to promote them, get them endorsement thanks to connections etc, after your debut year you'll either grow a fb big enough like BP or be surpassed by others groups like Treasure, IKon and even Winner.
In the end BP are here doing their thing with an incredible career.
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They had the biggest company privilege of the entire third generation by a huge margin
Actually all 3rd gen groups had a big company privilege like
Jype: 2pm were big in some years in SK, Wonder Girls and Miss A
All were big, huge, the face of kpop. Good luck in trying to understand it.
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Yet you have the most obsessed Blinks here going in threads and making payola accusations while calling other groups inorganic. How painfully tone deaf can you be as a fandom?
BP had EVERYTHING handed to them on a silver platter, and YG was built from the ground up by Big Bang and then later 2NE1 to a lesser extent. The road to success was already paved and coated in gold before BLACKPINK was ever in our area.
Kill This Love underperformed compared to their previous releases. It didn't even hit #1 in Korea. Even to BLACKPINK, these things happen
Well, toxic fans in big fandom the same way you are the toxic bunny.
And a bigger senior than BTS doesn't exist in kpop so everything you said about BP you can apply to a bigger dimension to all hybe new groups including NJ
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Well kpop grew since then so the timeline isn’t really that important. It’s more that people inherently don’t believe streams are as real as they were because of various things like ads and playlisting.
Yeah, it does make sense the doubt, specially after some events, but in BP case that Yama pointed out I do think their growth wasn't thanks to such tactics that appeared just in the 4th gen. They had the Big3 privilege like any other Big3 act and they kept their fame with great growth like we can see today.
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Their social media engagement reflected in their streams everywhere. They were able to do similarly across all streaming platforms. and they continue to have that impact all over.
Push and promo are viewed less critically than buying streams on any platform. The thing about today’s groups that feel fake is their numbers feel fake. People don’t believe that the streams new jeans gets for example is real.
Yeah, internationally BP grew with each cb with their first hot100 entry being in 2018 and even now the fandom is still pretty much present in their activities with some "gp" interest too. Their numbers match their success and popularity.
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Yama, I'm sure you must be mad that NJ path isn't looking good right now and their numbers aren't reaching BP numbers anymore, but calm down, it's just one cb in the middle of a huge fight. Have faith, don't lose your sleep over it!
Nobody denies BP privilege the same privilege every 3rd and 4th gen has if they are from the big4 if we still count YGE as a big4... Good luck trying to find peace in this cb.
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I don't care about rand. He's a jobless loser praying he can use NewJeans and yours truly for another hit thread, since nothing moves the meter on this forum anywhere close to the combination of those two things, so I'm not wasting words on him.
But I'm returning to take aim at these delusional Blinks. I know you didn't think you could come in here and talk shit without consequences, right?
How ironic is it that it was in their second year as well that BLACKPINK challenged Mamamoo to a face off on charts and Blinks got humbled as they watched Mamamoo debut higher, win most of the music shows, set a new record for 24 hour unique listeners and block BP from ever hitting #1?
Are you sure you want to gloat about NewJeans experiencing a drop in Spotify (for a very obvious reason as well--a huge segment of Hybe stans are boycotting them), when BLACKPINK didn't exactly destroy their competition in that scenario, and didn't have a boycott to use as an excuse either?
But what really tickles me is the return of organics. That debut was inorganic. This one was organic. Blah blah blah. Are we in a fucking grocery store, Blinks? And the irony of a Blink accusing NewJeans of having an inorganic debut is incredible to me.
You think BLACKPINK get a Perfect All Kill at debut and all those MV views without the YG name? You think they get brand deals at debut without the YG name? You think YG hasn't used "payola" at any point? Like, really? YOU'RE the ones who want to talk about what is or isn't organic?
Give me a fucking break.
As for Onces, just...stop. I don't want to hurt you or grab all the low hanging fruit that would present itself were I to bring the same vitriol and scrutiny to Twice that you do to NewJeans. Let it go. You had your time. NewJeans is the biggest girl group in the world now. It's their era. Twice turns 10 next year. Aren't you embarrassed by this behavior?
But really, this is about Blinks now and BLACKPINK. I can tell from the upvotes and comments in this thread and the last one that NewJeans has you SHOOK. You never imagined any girl group could chase down and potentially overshadow BLACKPINK any time soon, and a group started doing that as soon as they debuted. Never saw it coming, did you?
I'm sure you breath a heavy sigh of relief every time you hate track their recent comeback 's numbers and confirm they're not wreacking havoc on every platform....yet.
Get ready for some sleepless nights and panicked sweats in the future, because they're coming. And when they do, I'm coming for BP and Blinks.
Call it karma.
Are you a Taylor Swift stan? I think you and her could write some crazy songs about karma
But don't worry about BP career, Yama. They already proved themselves as the biggest gg in the world and I'm sure they are proud of everything they achieved and blinks are too!
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