Posts by Epyon-556

Quote from paradis

Public opinion can change overnight, we know how fickle Korean gp is, my point is if the court absolves her she can always set up a new label with investors. I do not doubt for a minute that she does have investors interested. So all I am saying is the only thing that is stopping her is the legal hurdle and if she emerges victorious from that she can set her own label and get investments. This is a post- verdict scenario that I am talking about. Ofc the establishment of her own label will be delayed due to the legal cases going on for a year or so since she will have a lot of things she will have to fight Hybe for, from her termination to her taking NJNS along and their IP, to her non-compete clause and most importantly the case filed by Hybe on her. It will be an arduous process.

Now that they filed criminal charges against MHJ for breach of trust any dreams of using her position of CEO to get the New Jeans members out of their contracts prematurely should be extinquished. She'd only be making Hybe's case for them.

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So what's new?

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WAIT

BHS suddenly decided that NewJeans wouldn't work and brought Sakura and Chaewon (2 members of Izone) to Source to make Le Sserafim.

The overall training period for that was around 6 months, for a debut in may 2022.

Ive debuted in December 2021, 6 months before Le Sserafim, with 2 members of Izone on the roster.

L O L

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Yunjin needed to be brought back from the states and Eunchae and Kazuha are brandnew.

Quote from prodigy210

Also do yall actually have a problem with mhj bringing up new jeans or do you have problem with them being brought with their support of mhj.

It hybe came out and said that new jeans were extremely hurt by mhj betrayl or that they were crying about what she tried to do would yall actually care at all.

Or do yall care because they support mhj while yall create theories on how evil and unhinged she is to the point where the only way someone could supprt her is by being manipulated.

I rather dislike them being brought up altogether. Minji and Hanni appeared in BTS' Permission MV. They may have less of an image of BTS' dongseang group then TXT, but they still have it and benefitted from it. You don't want to create the perception that they are the ones feuding with Hybe and 'had no intention of allowing anyone to promote themselves using phrases like ‘NewJeans’ dongsaeng group'. They have to perform at festivals and awards show in front of crowds that are 90% Armies again one day. That's how you get black oceans.

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I vaguely remember there being a Survival Show in the past that did the whole Haves and Have nots thing

And I think it was a lot more harsh, like only having access to the practice room really late at night

Was it Sixteen?

Yeah, Sixteen had Majors that could practice from 9 in the morning till 9 in the evening and Minors that had opposite hours.

most places presum it means they are continuing their ongoing world tour RTB with Japan dates, not starting another one this year.

Quote from paradis

How is Hybe getting her convo with shaman? How is that possible...anyone understanding how they are doing it? It would have been a one on one convo between her and the shaman or was it on emails or something sent by her from Hybe computers?

Probably on a device she needed to submit for the audit.

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But I don’t get it, aren’t all the NJ members from SouMu? Why she said she only picked Minji?

Minji was already there when Bang bought Source Music. The other 3 found in BigHit Auditions MHJ held. They still did their subsequent training with Source trainee group as Ador didn't exist yet. Hyein is the newest and may have only ever been in Ador.

Using her position as Ador's CEO to terminate their contracts then quit herself and hire them for her own label would so clearly abuse of the resources Hybe placed at her disposal it would never happen that smoothly, they'd in court for years.

Quote from David33

I don't want to read 80 pages, but did you see this? If this is actually true, NewJeans lost for sure. I don't care if Tokkis will hate me for saying this, but the girls should just shut up and don't take sides.

AGAIN! IF this is true and not some fake edit or as an inside joke or whatever. Even if it's a joke, the timing is not great.

The fact that this comes from Hyein (my fave NJ member) is even worse. I hope they won't do anything, they can lose their entire career.

https://www.allkpop.com/articl…s-amid-hybe-ador-conflict

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It's about haerin copying her clothes.

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But if a fan no longer enjoys their music and concepts whats the point. When gfriend went into a different direction i wished them the best but no longer supported them afraid same will happen again to new jeans for me.

It's a lot to ask for the people that wrote, arranged and composed Hype Boy and all the rest of the songs to forever walk away from Hybe and all the labels, groups and connections it represents just to follow MHJ whereever she goes, seeing is believing on that one.

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I’ve had it with these delusional tokkis. Enough is enough! How can you be so misguided to think NJ would survive let alone succeed without MHJ!? After 2018 Red Velvet’s quality dropped DRASTICALLY, have you not learnt anything?. She’s the life and blood of NJ and there’s no way around it. If you disagree then you’re just another incompetent HYBE / success stan

Red Velvet is still exists, regardless of whether you like any other their post 2018 work. The survival of the other SM groups she worked on didn't end up depending on her continued involvement either. Thinking New Jeans would survive without her just like everyone else in the industry survives without her is hardly delusional.

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MHJ is a an egotistical person never liked her but the way hybe is dealing with this it's very questionable I have to say

bringing up their parents is low imo do they want the gp to turn against the girls and their family? it shows that hybe doesn't have the best interest with their artists if they are revealing this info. The more I think about it, the more I agree with @the bad guy about the smear compaigns against her like revealing certain info or probably misleading info about her to make the public side with hybe in case something happens at least this is what I see as an outsider looking in.

MHJ brought up the girls themselves of her volition, that hurts their brand even worse.

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I see that point, but mhj isn’t some bum off the streets. She’s clearly a valuable asset and her work is proof. How about giving credit where credit is due?

Giving credit where credit is due is not Hybe giving up their sub label for no particular reason. It'd be great to see a great director go independent but she only owns 18% of ADOR, the move has to make sense to the people that own the other 82% too. And if it doesn't, that's their prerogative.

Quote from Tatiana1820

Lol losing MHJ is like losing all Ador team . They will follow her to the moon if they have to, just like they followed her to Hybe after parting with SM.

You guys really dont want to understand . NJ/MHJ/Ador team are a symbiose, they're like the cerbere one core with 3 heads but one still. Nothing can never be the same if one members falls.

And why would they want to work for someone who according to mhj and their parents and themselves have damaged NJs brand and have been treating them unfairly??

When obviously bang tries to replace them and mass promote his own nj?

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NJ didn't follow her to Ador, these girls auditioned to be in Big Hit/Hybe, BTS's company and were then given to MHJ. The reasons why someone would want to be in BTS's company instead of elsewhere have not disappeared.

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I don’t see why mhj can’t own her own label that she started?? Everyone’s starting to hate HYBE anyway for the deals they made with broadcasting companies, creating groups who “can’t sing”, trying to change kpop to pop and now copying… clearly it’s all about money and HYBE will do anything in their power to control everything

Hybe paid for it all, provided the staff and the trainees.

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if Mr.A talking the blame,what happening now ?

Hybe will likely still push for MHJ's resignation at the shareholder meeting.

Quote from 0ppar

you don't know that the girls aren't on team MHJ.

Mentioning them attending these meetings hurts their brand either way.

MHJ contributed more. Past tense, today, Hybe is perfectly capable of copying her successfully enough with Illit and can do the same with a MHJless New Jeans, they lose a lot creatively but in terms of monetary value the loss is much more nebulous. Ador fully independent from Hybe's brand which still includes BTS I cannot say the same about. They'd lose a lot there. Can't imagine shareholders siding with MHJ over Hybe even if the audit comes up with literally nothing at all.

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If Pannchoa is removed for good, where will kpop stans going to get their daily hate news?

If true, good riddance.

Curious if something happened? they got sued or something.

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Still got pannatic netizenbuzz and pannkpop