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Errr.... I start from brand deals, obviously all Izone members getting a lot of cf and brand deals. Like they're the most popular produce group, obviously they bag that deals. Sakura and Wonyoung is there to match Somi gp recognition. Ive popularity now is no joke in Korea. Even Yena and Yuri outsold both Chungha and Somi sales for their solo album.

And what exactly other than sejeong, somi and chungha done, actually? I'm not following them post-produce but you mentioned them only for brand deals that everyone in izone also get? And some of them only get small roles or lead in not even popular drama? 4 members of Izone in popular group, 2 is in popular group in Japan, 3 is popular soloist.

Lol you believe what you wanna believe. Sejeong alone has 10 Cfs and endorsements in 2021, like compared to some of IZ*ONE's most popular members like Sakura, Yujin or Wonyoung, it's not even close. But yeah sure.

As for music, you talk about all the numbers for Yena, Yuri and Eunbi, but literally c'mon now, Gotta Go is like one of the biggest songs ever in Kpop, everyone in Korea was covering it on every variety show, Somi's Dumb Dumb was also frequently covered. How many people are dancing to Yena, Yuri or Eunbi songs now other than their friends in their own TikTok promos? I mean, they only had their debuts, so fair enough, but if we're talking about most successful post-produce overall? Let's not lie here man, you know the truth. (And also while we're here when's the last time these popular IZ*ONE soloists went on any big variety shows? Somi, Sejeong, Chungha goes on tons of variety shows because the public actually knows them, they frequent shows like Knowing Bros, Running Man, Amazing Saturday, On&Off. Like you're using album sales as the only criteria, while ignoring hit songs, variety presence etc. but yeah sure)

And literally Mina in Hotel Del Luna, Jung Chaeyeon in King's Affection, Doyeon in My Roomate is a Gumiho and One the Woman, all of which dramas did very well, Mina and Chaeyeon both were leads in their respective dramas. Chaeyeon was nominated for Best New Actress in KBS 2021 Drama Awards.

It almost seems like you're just picking and choosing whichever numbers/etc. to push your narrative and ignoring everything else.. but whatever floats your boat I guess.

Nah, it's still IOI. Chungha is still leading on the music front compared to all of IZ*ONE's soloists. WJSN is always steadily doing great. Somi has been slowly expanding her discography, but Dumb Dumb was a certified hit.

On the acting side of things, IOI's actresses are all always getting significant roles on TV dramas, with Sejeong leading the pack with hit dramas like The Uncanny Counter and Business Proposal, arguably the most successful 3rd gen idol actress. Mina is consistently booked, Chaeyeon getting another leading role on MBC's The Golden Spoon, Doyeon had a bunch of supporting roles this past year.

On the CFs side of things, Sejeong, Somi and Chungha are all always getting CFs and endorsements, their GP name recognition are all much higher than any of IZ*ONE members. The next tier down, Chaeyeon, Yoojung, Mina and Doyeon are getting their share of brand deals as well.

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That's true but didn't her bullying scandal (that ended up being true) effect her film chances?

I mean, not really. I'm not gonna argue whether the allegations are true or not, but her film/short drama with Na Inwoo still aired no problem, and she still has activities (doing a theatre play) for the last month or so.

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I want to know who is the ultimate *loser* of IOI.

Everyone talks about the successful ones but its hard to know who didn't have much luck. Sohye?

Sohye isn't doing too bad either. She was nominated and won a lot of awards just from Moonlit Winter. She also had two films in 2021, a horror film Guimoon as well as Her Bucket List, leading with Na Inwoo who's a rising popular actor that's also in 2 Days 1 Night.

I think it's because she's focusing more on films, not in TV dramas, so that's why i-fans who hear much from her, but it's not like she's *unsuccessful*

There's literally Sejeong and Jung Chaeyeon right there

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Everyone of SISTAR outside of Hyolyn. I heard a few times how people wonder why Bora is literally like POOF and gone

Bora was literally in Dr Romantic 2 just last year lol

Personally I like Rowoon more than Eunwoo as an actor

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Very much depends on the contract. There may have been exclusivity language in the IZ*ONE contract that would prevent her from recording or filming content for other groups.

There is, but there was also the weird thing about the final concert being held one month before their official disbandment. And I doubt they really just sat around doing nothing for the last month or so.

What else is she gonna do? She can film her variety shows and promote at the same time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IZ*ONE hadn't had any activities since the concert for the past month anyway, so she might've done things with her company's group already

Wanna One had the most success. They easily generated the most revenue, had the IT boy in Kang Daniel, album sales, and the absolute enormous fanbase.

IOI easily had the most impact. They were the sensation, Pick Me was known by everyone, the PAKs in Veryx3 and Downpour. They also guested on every show on the planet, breaking ratings record. On top of that, they had the most GP support and relevance of each individual member out of the Produce Groups.

They've had more than 2 years to think of something, they definitely have a plan. They're just not saying it yet because it's a bit insensitive to move on right now when they only officially disbanded a couple of hours ago

Yes. Izone is legend but everyone else re bad vocal

izone permanent yes

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Wut? I have no earthly idea who Seungwoo, Jihoon, or Yohan are.

Daniel and Chungha are literally the only two names i recognize and that are actually doing as well as their Produce groups did.

As for all the other names you mentioned, including Sejeong, i can guarantee that they would give up all the stuff you named if they could go back and remain as popular and beloved as they were during their Produce reign.

Kinda ignorant to say "Most of these Produce group stars are gonna end up nowhere, hollow shells of their former glory." when you don't even recognise some of the biggest names in the Produce groups, wouldn't you say

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I can't disagree. Most of these Produce group stars are gonna end up nowhere, hollow shells of their former glory. They're gonna go from living in luxury apartments with their own rooms, kicking back in the VIP suites of MCountdown, going on paid vacations where you just gorge yourself silly on free food and go paragliding, and selling almost 3 million records in two years and charting in the top 10-25 on Gaon, to the painful, stress inducing life of a rookie nugu group. Crammed in sardine can dorms, living off vending machine choco pies, and kicking back in the janitor's closet of The Show.

Disbanding Produce groups at the peak of their power and success is literally the flaming heights of idiocy. Do these labels not understand like the literal core principle of Kpop (fan engagement and investment in the GROUP)?

If Msnake and the nugu labels were smart, they would have worked out a fair deal where the labels get more revenue in exchange for taking on more of the costs associated with each Produce group. Keep the group going until they actually run out of steam on their own.

Oh no these stars end up nowhere hollow shells of former glory. Meanwhile Sejeong getting lead roles in dramas since debut, tons of variety, Chungha biggest 3rd female gen soloist, Ong Seungwoo lead roles in dramas and movies, Kang Daniel biggest male solo artist, Park Jihoon another popular drama actor, Kim Yohan lead role in drama 1 year into his career, etc etc

Activities as a group member isn't the end of their career. There's tons of acting activities, variety, CFs, modelling. You're just so close-minded that because they're not in your face 24/7, you think they're flopping in their basements doing nothing when every produce member have their own projects going on

It's been three years but yall still repeat the same Somi/JYP/Itzy arguments. Did you ever think about what she wants?

Does she want to release more songs? Probably. But right now she has a lot more freedom to do things her way, and doesn't have to split the dough with 5 other members. She has plenty of brand deals and CFs, and when promotions begin for a comeback, she will likely have plenty of variety shows to guest on

Doyeon is a close friend but she ain't in no scandal sweetie

She has like second highest number of fans in the group, and most people agree she would have a great career even after disbandment. How is she underappreciated? I'm sorry but what do you want us to do

Domestic success opens up a lot more opportunities for an idol's career further down the line. Acting, variety, MCing, CFs, etc. You can have have overseas success but writers aren't gonna offer you a drama role if no one in the GP know who you are

They disbanded, and there's nothing new to talk about. Obviously their fans and the idols themselves are just focusing on their individual careers

You: "My idol gets hate for breathing"

Also you: "FUck Sakura and her fans they spread hate for no reason"