Do you think it's morally OK to change the time-line to save someone important to you?

  • Not morally right probably, but I would still do it

  • No one knows how time travel works so it’s hard to bring up the question of morality for things that we don’t understand.


    If I go back in time and I kill hitler as a kid does that mean I did the “right” thing?


    What if it time works like in Avengers where going back creates a new timeline, so killing hitler means my timeline never changed. I’m just a child killer of another timeline who achieved nothing.


    What if I can change history, what’s to guarantee there’s not another even worse leader? Or maybe a worse situation down the line. Allegiances and ideologies change over time after all. Russia and USA used to be allies during ww2, look at them over the last few decades. Just look at what happens in Middle East because in recent years, American invades and destabilises the reigon and we had isis prancing around. Hell Britain basically started the Palestine Isreal war but does fuck all to resolve it. If I kill hitler I might have unowkingly created a worse situation in the future…..or my past…..but if I changed the past then it’s no longer MY past it’s a different version


    Or what if everything changes for the better and there’s no new evil uprising. I kill hitler and save millions. Great. I go back to a peaceful timeline where ww2 never happens. Buuuuut if if time is continuous and repeating then because there was no ww2 there’s no reason for another version of me to go back. That means there’s no version of me to kill hitler. That means ww2 occurs as usual. That means there’s a timeline where I’m appalled at ww2 and I go back to kill hitler. Aka grandfather paradox. I basically achieved a status quo, I save half the times but the other half is still fucked but in order for me to save half the timelines I need to let the other half get fucked over.


    Lol time travel is trippy

  • To me regardless of the outcome, younwould be changing people's lives without their consent


    That alone makes it immoral


    But if they don't notice it, then is it really?

    Lol

  • They have this saying about heroes and villains. A hero would sacrifice you to save the world, and a villain would sacrifice the world to save you. looking at it this way, I would most likely be the villain. Morality is.... there are things that are definitely objectively good and bad, but for me, there is also a lot of gray areas where good and bad can be relative. If I had the opportunity to save somebody important to me, that's good, but if I abandoned them die on the off chance something MIGHT affect other people, then that's bad....


    I mean, I would definitely feel lots of guilt or shame over it if anything catastrophic were to occur because I did it, but that's honestly I risk I would take.


    Somewhat out of topic but, I've faced this scenario before when playing Life is Strange and while watching SNK. Both times I picked the same side. I chose to sacrifice Arcadia Bay to save Chloe and I sided with Floch.


    Well, guess that says enough about my personality.

    :pepe-slash:

  • That’s a whole nother level of morality lol. So what if I change someone life for the better without them knowing. Let’s say i don’t let 2 people meet and marry because I know one will abuse the other. I technically saved the victim but did so without consent. Is that morally right?


    Or what if I tell their partner will abuse them and they say they never want to meet them. Ok I saved them and with their consent but that means I indirectly affected people in the future like their kids, grandkids, friends who get to know them and form bonds etc. I basically changed the lives of a dozens or more people all without consent by not letting 2 people who were initially destined to meet up. Is that morally right?


    Or just focusing on those 2. I tell the victim of the abuse they will get and they don’t want o marry their partner, but what about the partner? I just got them out of the picture without their consent, maybe they did really love each other and if had sorted out their relationship they could still be together without the abuse. That’s another life I changed. Is that morally right?


    Like I said morals go out the window when talking about time travel. It’s too much of a grey area

  • If life is strange taught me anything its that altering timelines catches up with you eventually (brownie points if you get the reference) I believe there's a reason for everything and there are simply too many things to consider I mean what if the person you ripped the entire space time continuum for ends up hurting you? Then it'd all be for nothing, sometimes things are best the way they are. Is it morally right? No, its not you because are changing time purely for yourself which makes it inherently selfish.

  • If life is strange taught me anything its that altering timelines catches up with you eventually (brownie points if you get the reference) I believe there's a reason for everything and there are simply too many things to consider I mean what if the person you ripped the entire space time continuum for ends up hurting you? Then it'd all be for nothing, sometimes things are best the way they are. Is it morally right? No, its not you because are changing time purely for yourself which makes it inherently selfish.

    You still think there will be no consequences, my friend? No price to pay? We broke our rules. Just like her. The bill comes due. Always

  • well let's see


    morals right?


    let's start with the premise saying one's life is generally moral (there are exceptions especially if the person wanted to pass away or has a DNR or something)


    therefore if saving a person is generally considered moral then let's add changing the timeline...


    there are many examples where saying someone whilst undertaking even a bad action is considered moral - ie. the ends justifying the means like defense of another or trespassing onto someone else's property to save them etc etc


    so therefore changing the timeline may be considered a bad action by itself the fact that one would save a person even though the action is bad may be thought of as moral

  • Morally OK for me


    Technically I have good odds to get stuck in the space of the timeline to go for not able to come back due to butterfly effects.


    Wormhole could have taken me to another dimension in return trip, a one way ticket as trade off.

    would probably do it if i have had enough in the current time line.


    Morally OK for all mankind? Random odds in this case on how butterfly effect goes, its tossing coin and my answer would be Nike says - Just do it.

  • i've definitely noticed that im a "for the greater good" type of person, so i probably wouldn't. especially if that entails potentially changing my own life.

  • I couldn't give you an answer until I was faced with that choice.


    I can sit here and say this or that, etc, principles, etc, morals, but it will be more than an endless debate in my head. This is such a big decision that I think I would need to be placed in such a dire situation to really decide what I would do.

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