I'm fortunate enough to stan a group that has both 
Being charismatic >>>>>> Visuals for idols
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You think a idol say with average visuals but high charisma can't out do a visual who has zero personality and it factor? Now yes the uninviting visual has fans thanks to their face but i do believe a overall charismatic idol can surpass them.
But how many idols have โuninvitingโ visuals?
Kpop is way more visual focused than charisma focused.
If a person is already good looking enough to become an idol AND is charismatic thatโs obviously great but the idol must to be attractive, or theyโre not debuting. On the other hand you can debut as an idol and gain tons of fans even if you have mediocre charisma as long as youโre a visual. Charisma is generally treated as secondary to visuals, thereโs no denying that
Kpop is attracting more attention and fans because of kpop idolsโ visuals than their charisma too. Visuals is one of the main thing the industry is known for, not charisma.
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why not have both?
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charms+ visuals >>>>>charisma for me
unless we consider charms as part of charisma what i'm trying to say I don't necessarily like strong charisma or someone that is fierce... for me it's like a combination of a lot of things including personality.
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Honestly, I feel like I am attracted to charisma in kpop. But everywhere else it's always kindness for some reason. Like, my crush isn't not the most handsome guy in school and I don't really know him well enough to know if he is charismatic. But I do know he is nice(and that's why I like him, I know kind of pathetic lol). But then again, I don't know him that well.
But for idols it's a totally another case, like I love charisma, passion, personality etc. I do check in kindness from what I can see but I feel like passion and charisma is what attracts me the most.
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But how many idols have โuninvitingโ visuals?
Kpop is way more visual focused than charisma focused.
If a person is already good looking enough to become an idol AND is charismatic thatโs obviously great but the idol must to be attractive, or theyโre not debuting. On the other hand you can debut as an idol and gain tons of fans even if you have mediocre charisma as long as youโre a visual. Charisma is generally treated as secondary to visuals, thereโs no denying that
Kpop is attracting more attention and fans because of kpop idolsโ visuals than their charisma too. Visuals is one of the main thing the industry is known for, not charisma.
I see your pov.
Also ppl should stop thinking chrisma and visuals are same. Absolutely not . Some visuals are so blank ๐
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visual is just a bonus, what's more important is how they engage with fans.
some visual idols have dead blank face during their performances, and they mostly get a pass because they are the visuals.
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Agreed!!
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skills makes you even more charismatic
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I've always considered visuals part of someone's charm or charisma, looks contribute to it.
If someone's ugly, it's very hard for that person to be considered charming or charismatic by others.
While someone who's very good looking, it's far easier to be considered very charming or charismatic by others when that person makes an effort.
Which is why you'll see very few ugly looking people among successful sales people.
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Except mt fave has both
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I disagree.... Visual comes first for many kpop fans
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But how do you measure charisma?
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Omg, so many liars in this thread
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An idol having both is preferable but personally it's the other way around for me. I can get satisfaction looking at a pretty face even if they are a so called "bland visual" like people accused irene or tzuyu on stage, but if someone doesn't match my visual tastes, i'm not as moved by cool gestures or facial expressions they make lol
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I'll take both
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Tsuki is both
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Omg, so many liars in this thread
i know it's hard to believe but people are allowed to have different opinions. i know, what a concept
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