IVE is trying to be most charismatic IDOL Group after Blackpink with their Stage Presence and Facial Expressions.

They're good performers, don't know if they can be compared to Blackpink, I mean Blackpink always sings live, and I haven't seen IVE's live performance to judge but if they're as good then great.

why is blackpink's supposedly being the most charismatic group getting treated like a fact? i honestly don't see what's so special about their stage presence.

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They're good performers, don't know if they can be compared to Blackpink, I mean Blackpink always sings live, and I haven't seen IVE's live performance to judge but if they're as good then great.

they don't. they lipsynch to prerecorded vocals like everyone else, both in music shows and even their us tv appearances.

they are great

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why is blackpink's supposedly being the most charismatic group getting treated like a fact? i honestly don't see what's so special about their stage presence.

they don't. they lipsynch to prerecorded vocals like everyone else, both in music shows and even their us tv appearances.

Okay, shouldn't have used "always"

yes

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why is blackpink's supposedly being the most charismatic group getting treated like a fact? i honestly don't see what's so special about their stage presence.

It's not a widely held opinion so it's an odd thing to throw around so matter of factly.

hmm they definitely do have a good stage presence, but they need to also work on their vocals more. Yujin grabs my attention the most when I watch their stages.

I definitely agree with the facial expression one. I mean really, they killed it everytime! Their confidence is amazing, not like a rookie at all. I remember watching some teasers of debuting GGs, and some of the idols looked awkward or not at ease at times (which is what I am always associating rookies with) but I never noticed that in IVE. Starship needs to play their cards right. At least they have some experience with Monsta X with the west, I’m sure eventually IVE will promote there too..

They say the same thing when aespa debut

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It's not a widely held opinion so it's an odd thing to throw around so matter of factly.

y'all getting brave because blinks are quiet.

Itzy has the best stage presence and most charismatic on stage lol (in 4th gen ofc)

but Ive is doing great

Anyway, these camera angles on new choreography videos are so close it's like they are staring right at you. Blackpink never did something like these.

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y'all getting brave because blinks are quiet.

Getting brave? Facts need no bravery. Lol.

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y'all getting brave because blinks are quiet.

You're overthinking how much that bothers me

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It’s the word of someone who is their fan, both Groups are appreciated here and this is the hill you guys want to die on ? Yeah not everyone thinks that but enough lol

If a thread was made like this on vocals with a recent GG that's not Mamamoo I'd also feel compelled to reply. Hill to die on no, but enough for me to want to express my opinion yes.

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You're overthinking how much that bothers me

If a thread was made like this on vocals with a recent GG that's not Mamamoo I'd also feel compelled to reply. Hill to die on no, but enough for me to want to express my opinion yes.

go back to working on kpop datasets lol. That suits you better.

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go back to working on kpop datasets lol. That suits you better.

The exact level of rebuttal I would have expected based on your original reply of thinking it matters to people that fandoms are "quiet".