Do NCT members actually get paid for their work?

Well a WayV member ain't gonna get paid for a Dream song so the only times they're really paid dust is a song like Resonance/Black on Black. The rest would just be by the unit. It's not rocket science

34? I thought they had 47 members.

But, yes, the revenue gets diluted when you have to divide them among 23 members. But at least it's logarithmical. They only make half of what a 12 member group would make. But if they release twice more albums, well... it may pay out.

Yes, they get paid.

They should be getting paid with

This is a fair point tbh. Perhaps SM is making money elsewhere that's funding everyone.

Honestly that's a good question.

I never wondered about it, but even if they push out more content than other groups, this is still going to be pretty dilluted.

Mmmmh.

Prob very little. Do they have song writing credits or producing at all?

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Honestly that's a good question.

I never wondered about it, but even if they push out more content than other groups, this is still going to be pretty dilluted.

Mmmmh.

I'm sure alot of these idols make slim to none... Especially of they from a group that's not as popular.

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I know this is SM but how with 34 members does SM pay them fairly and equally?

thats a very good question ngl but who knows how much sm pays each.

i doubt they all get paid the same amount tho

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I'm sure alot of these idols make slim to none... Especially of they from a group that's not as popular.

True... the thing is though, NCT IS popular.

I feel like they aren't paid enough compared to what they are probably bringing to SM.

I would assume SM divides the income equally between the 23 members

NCT in general does do pretty well in the physical album sales, so I think their overall profits are good

wouldn't it be illegal for sm to not pay them.

I can't believe none of you here thought of the very obvious answer. Other than the 2 newest members that joined NCT, recently, every NCT member is a part of a fixed unit that works exactly like any regular kpop group.

Anyway, it's interesting seeing people who dgaf about NCT suddenly exhibit concern over their bank accounts.

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True... the thing is though, NCT IS popular.

I feel like they aren't paid enough compared to what they are probably bringing to SM.

And what basis is that feeling of yours built on exactly?

nct members likely get payed for the work they do overseas bc it has been rumored for a while that sm contracts are 9:1 in favor of the company for korean promotions but 6:4 for international promotions. so nct127 at the least is making money. way v's contracts are probably different though. i kind of doubt each member individually made much money from the nct2020 promos tho seeing as any penny of profit got split between 20+ people.

They probably aren't getting paid since doyoung was caught stealing a ring from a store to give to taeyong.

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Every that comes in my threads and comments nothing but an acorn are peices of .

Y'alls drug addiction to akorns has ruined this forum.

Imagine being a guest or a user and you see a thread title that could be interesting and it had a lot of replies. One might think "Oh theres a decent conversation going on in here so I'll go check it out".

But then all they find is pointless waste of space posts of God damn akorns.

Way to help the forum grow.

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The site is mostly dead and when we get threads it's usually troll stuff, let us be addicts in peace

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Every that comes in my threads and comments nothing but an acorn are peices of .

Y'alls drug addiction to akorns has ruined this forum.

Imagine being a guest or a user and you see a thread title that could be interesting and it had a lot of replies. One might think "Oh theres a decent conversation going on in here so I'll go check it out".

But then all they find is pointless waste of space posts of God damn akorns.

Way to help the forum grow.

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Try to make good thread and stop complaining

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nct members likely get payed for the work they do overseas bc it has been rumored for a while that sm contracts are 9:1 in favor of the company for korean promotions but 6:4 for international promotions. so nct127 at the least is making money. way v's contracts are probably different though. i kind of doubt each member individually made much money from the nct2020 promos tho seeing as any penny of profit got split between 20+ people.

Lmao where did you get that from?

First of all the 9:1 ratio is only for physical albums, not Korean activities. But the profits of SM artists album sales go to their unicef campaign SMile so whatever

Second, the overseas activities ratio is 7:3 in favor of the artists

This is according to Tvxq's contracts from 2009. Who knows what the contracts are actually like now.

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True... the thing is though, NCT IS popular.

I feel like they aren't paid enough compared to what they are probably bringing to SM.

Perhaps but it's being split...so how much are they really making?

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True I dont care about NCT. But I do care about people being underpaid for what they are actually worth.

10/15 years ago SM didn't even want to pay a 5 member TVXQ (their biggest group of all time) what they worth.

Now they got 55 NCT members to pay.

Tvxq's lawsuit was mainly about "artistic freedom"

You have absolutely no way to tell whether NCT members are getting paid fairly or not so save the fake concern

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And what basis is that feeling of yours built on exactly?

Because whatever they get is necesserily divided ? And they are planning to add even more members, right ?

That said, maybe I'm wrong and maybe SM is betting heavily on each of the members they have. This is just not the feeling I've got I guess.

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You don't get to decide what's a good thread and what's not.

Farm for akorns in your own damn threads.

I do, but your threads are good to farm too

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Because whatever they get is necesserily divided ? And they are planning to add even more members, right ?

That said, maybe I'm wrong and maybe SM is betting heavily on each of the members they have. This is just not the feeling I've got I guess.

NCT have 3 fixed units and every member except for the 2 newest ones (who will definitely be in the rumored new unit) are part of a fixed unit.

The fixed units work exactly like any regular kpop group, they have their own discographies, gigs, events, concerts etc

NCT only promote as a whole brand once every 2 years.

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Lmao where did you get that from?

First of all the 9:1 ratio is only for physical albums, not Korean activities. But the profits of SM artists album sales go to their unicef campaign SMile so whatever

Second, the overseas activities ratio is 7:3 in favor of the artists

This is according to Tvxq's contracts from 2009. Who knows what the contracts are actually like now.

oh 6:4 came from events i guess

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anyway, not sure how having the exact details changed any of my points. doubt the contract has improved much. its def not a 50/50 profit split, and they've prob tweaked the overseas profit more in favor of the company now since they're attempting to push nct to much abroad. but who knows

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Why would they pay the whole group for what NCT Dream does though? The only time they'd have to split between ALL the members for stuff like Empathy and Resonance since all the members were involved. Otherwise they'd pay the members of the group for what they did. Do you think groups get paid parts of members solo albums or subunits?

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NCT have 3 fixed units and every member except for the 2 newest ones (who will definitely be in the rumored new unit) are part of a fixed unit.

The fixed units work exactly like any regular kpop group, they have their own discographies, gigs, events, concerts etc

NCT only promote as a whole brand once every 2 years.

I guess if we consider the subunits as full groups, it might work. I wonder what might happen if one day one of NCT subunit gets a huge breakthrough, and the other two fall behind. Would they be okay with members from one subunit being paid a lot more ?

That might just be the model that is confusing to me tbh.

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Does concerts fall under "Events"?

i would say yes

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oh 6:4 came from events i guess

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anyway, not sure how having the exact details changed any of my points tho. doubt the contract has improved much. its def not a 50/50 profit split, and they've prob tweaked the overseas profit more in favor of the company now since they're attempting to push nct to much abroad. but who knows

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"probably" yeah sure

According to the dude from Akudong Musician (someone actually in the industry), you should join SME if you're in it for the money

According to Heechul, the secret behind longevity in kpop is intelligent contract negotiation. SJ have renewed twice with SM and SM have one of if not the highest renewal rate in kpop.

But I'm sure a conspiracy theory about SM contracts getting worse and worse, coming from a known SM anti is more believable.

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Does concerts fall under "Events"?

Concert tours fall under overseas activities and the artists get 70% of that.

All SM's idols whose groups tour a lot are well off.

aclassyteaparty is an SM anti and they have been lying, either directly or by omission. Don't take what they say seriously.

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You're trying to say that it's not fair for them to split all their profit 23 ways, but it's also not fair to not split their profit 23 ways?

I'm saying the model is confusing to me, and that if there were going to work as separate groups, why not... just make them separate groups tbh.

But I'm not attacking them, please don't take it that way. I'm mostly wondering about SM's motivation behind NCT's model, that's it.