Is SM a good company?

no.

No, but they're all bad

every company has bad & good sides

Is there even a discussion?

No

No.

They are not good, but they have all the great

Their business side is bad and their art side is the best in the industry (artists, music, content)

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Reason?

well, i'm an exol. so there's that. why is this even in question tho, how many lawsuits have they had again?

No. Their main problem is they don't care about their Artist. Most company's don't care but they don't wholly neglect their Artist like SM.

The Sucide of Artists( No action against Mallicious cyberbulling)

The carelessness on Wendy's case.Wendy's life & career both were at risk. Her hip bones were fratured. ( they could literally sue SBS. But didn't)

Die hard try to claim other success as their own ( Talking about only Mr. LSM).

Putting old GG on Dungeon after the new gg comes( Not fault of new GGs)

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List them

Good:

best vocalists

best music

best concepts

best training

Innovative etc

Bad:

Mistreatment of foreign members

CA etc

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No. Their main problem is they don't care about their Artist. Most company's don't care but they don't wholly neglect their Artist like SM.

The Sucide of Artists.

The carelessness on Wendy's case.Wendy's life & career both were at risk. Her hip bones were fractured. They could literally sue SBS. But didn't.

Die hard try to claim other success as their own ( Talking about only Mr. LSM).

Putting old GG on Dungeon after the new gg comes( Not fault of new GGs)

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some of those things are not on the same level. Please don't try to equate the weirdness of LSM with the horrible way they treat artists. additionally, I would argue that the suicide issues weren't entirely their fault, although there is a lot more SM could have done.

No

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Lawsuits!?wtf

Really

many artists have sued do to xenophobia, which lead to extreme mistreatment. for instance, people often forgot that exo's china line was dealing with life threatening injuries/illnesses, with tao sometimes in a wheelchair, yet SM continued to make them work.

yes and no.

yes - big 3 privilege and exposure will put artist on the map. LSM said they paved the way .

no - because, no EXO and RV comeback . not good with handling PR.

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That's not it to weaponize suicide, especially when the people closest to them and their family never blamed the agency for it as far as we know

I am not blaming them. SM didn't take any actions against the Malicious comments or Bully that Sulli got. Did they?

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some of those things are not on the same level. Please don't try to equate the weirdness of LSM with the horrible way they treat artists. additionally, I would argue that the suicide issues weren't entirely their fault, although there is a lot more SM could have done.

I am not equating any point. Just stating the point. Their mistreatment towards Artist is on 1st level & LSM's weirdness is on 2nd level. But all results in a bad company.

Yeah, SM could have done a lot against the bully Sulli got. But what they do? Nothing.

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I am not equating any point. Just stating the point. Their mistreatment towards Artist is on 1st level & LSM's weirdness is on 2nd level. But all results in a bad company.

Yeah, SM could have done a lot against the bully Sulli got. But what they do? Nothing.

I don't think a crazy creator necessarily makes them a horrible company alone, but does it help their reputation? no.

Yes and No.

Yes for releasing the best music in KPOP as a whole, their idols are talented AF, Artistic approach, Content, if they provide, is good.

No for pathetic marketing, mistreatment and discrimination between foreign and Korean members.

I think when it comes to SM the good outweighs the bad

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Woah calm down,,why are u putting the whole suicide blame on sm??sulli's suicide is caused by cyberbullying and malicious commenters but yeah they could have done something more to protect their artists,, while for jonghyun we dont know,,and sm didnt cause wendy's injury bruh,,sbs did,,

Did SM did anything? Like shouldn't they sue SBS?

I am still butthurt that they still didn't give any explanation for WinWin situation, doesn't protect their idols, some SM Plagiarism claims are legit and they don't care about it, mismanaged f(x).

In terms of music producers, composers, vocal coaches - SM as a company immaculate.

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Reason?

People already answered

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I am not equating any point. Just stating the point. Their mistreatment towards Artist is on 1st level & LSM's weirdness is on 2nd level. But all results in a bad company.

Yeah, SM could have done a lot against the bully Sulli got. But what they do? Nothing.

Idk if your naive or just this ignorant, but to think you know ANYTHING about SM actions towards comments online is stupid. Not to mention, essentially putting the blame of suicide on SM’s feet.

Pls do some research on how many celebrities died of suicide last year in korea. Are we blaming their agencies?

How about suicide in general which is high in korea, are we blaming parents now too?

Your an uneducated idiot talking about things you know nothing about. Please stop.

Depends, they still have impact but business wise it goes from worst to even worst if is possible, for a big company, one that is/used to be first, they are lacking marketing wise a big time

Idk at personal level how they treat their artist, they aren't that good but not sure so how bad lol

Leaning more towards good because they have a lot of advantages but there are also a lot of bad parts like mismanagement, treatment of foreigners, etc