Why is Sunmi never mentioned when it comes to idols who have input in their work?

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She wrote ALL the lyrics to every track on her latest EP by herself, and produced 4/6 of them. Same for Warning, she has a solo lyricist credit on every track sans Heroine & Gashina(which had Teddy as a co-writer) and a production credit on 4/7 of the tracks.

She also wrote Tail, Pporappippam & What The Flower by herself, and had production credits on both of them. Actually she's had a writing & production/composition credit on all of her non-JYP solo songs. So WHY is she never mentioned in this conversation?

I actually never knew any of this! Wow! That is impressive! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Have a great day/night!

I thought she did get a lot of credit,especially when she first hit off her solo career after wg's disbandment?

Then again,like most k-pop soloists,she relies a lot on gp rather than a giant fandom,so maybe that's why.

I knew it because Sunmi is my best friend (it's true. don't search it up) I didn't know it wasn't well known

Looks like non Sunmi stans need to get on the right side and stan sunmi

Sunmi fans aren't crazy loud I guess because I had no idea.

Yeah, I def. haven't come across too many in her fandom dropping these kind of details.

1) people didnt know

2) people dont care about her (only her songs)

This applies to many idols

I don’t think people consider her as an idol anymore

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I don’t think people consider her as an idol anymore

that's what I came in thinking

Because people who know about this stay silent in threads talking about idols who have input in their work. So it’s your fault, itiswhatitis :P

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I don’t think people consider her as an idol anymore

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that's what I came in thinking

But why wouldn't Sunmi be considered an idol?

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But why wouldn't Sunmi be considered an idol?

No idea. I consider her to be one, albeit currently a soloist, but still an idol at the end of the day. Have a great day/night!

I think its bc she's so damn pretty that ppl probably think that she's just shows up and sings whatever they tell her. I've been respecting her producing game since Faded Love from Reboot. Like that song made me see Sunmi in a different light

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But why wouldn't Sunmi be considered an idol?

in the same way Lee Hyori, HyunA, Hyolyn, CL, etc wouldn't be considered idols anymore.

She isn't talk about much in general this past year or so

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She wrote ALL the lyrics to every track on her latest EP by herself, and produced 4/6 of them. Same for Warning, she has a solo lyricist credit on every track sans Heroine & Gashina(which had Teddy as a co-writer) and a production credit on 4/7 of the tracks.

She also wrote Tail, Pporappippam & What The Flower by herself, and had production credits on both of them. Actually she's had a writing & production/composition credit on all of her non-JYP solo songs. So WHY is she never mentioned in this conversation?

She had a plagiarism scandal that Knets exploited a lot. She also didn't comment on it during Tail so netizens made it worse.

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Teddy got dragged a lot too.

The reason why Knets basically went wild with it is because Sunmi got into college with special treatment, which Knetz hate because she didn't even finish school and it was unfair. Since then Sunmi has always been stereotyped as "untalented".

Sunmi was dissed for being a "bad singer" and judging on "Lets Sing Again". She was called untalented for a performance where she was lip synching (and dancing very intensely) and she nearly collapsed at the end of that performance.

Then Sunmi posted livestreams crying + with pills and people went silent.

The only member of Wonder Girls stereotypically considered talented was Sunye at first (since she was JYP's best girl group singer to date). Then Yeeun, and Woobin got recognition last with Unpretty Rapstar.

Wonder Girls was JYP's best vocal line but after Sunye left, they got bashed for their lives and that reputation was kinda destroyed. (as usual the live wasn't even that bad they were just slightly unstable because they were carrying instruments)

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in the same way Lee Hyori, HyunA, Hyolyn, CL, etc wouldn't be considered idols anymore.

But this then begs the question: why aren't they considered idols?

I guess what I'm struggling with is, what exactly is the distinction between an idol singer and a non-idol singer?

For example, is IU an idol singer? I've heard people say both yes and no. In fact, in this recent thread, IU herself was quoted as being critical of the whole idol/non-idol dichotomy.

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Woobin got recognition last with Unpretty Rapstar.

So according to Lexicon, this is Woobin:

I think you mean Yubin: