Oh boy

If this was such a big deal to Yiren (not wanting to do the New Years bowing thing due to cultural differences) then her label probably couldve planned an excuse for Yiren, just have her leave temporarily or leave early due to feeling "sick".

But honestly, this wont impact EG in the slightest in Korea. Nobody bothers to listen to them anyway since Korean GP are tasteless wbk, and their fans and her solo stans wont care about this.

The situation isn't that big of a deal but she should have bowed. Cultural difference is bullshit unless its something seriously against your life like certain religion etc. The old saying " When in Rome do as the Romans do" applies heavily here. Properly greeting someone in their native form when you are in their country is a sign of respect. Everyone knows this or did we forget that? I'm suprised the woke crowd isn't dragging her considering that's the thing they bang on the most is race and respect of xyz culture. But seriously this is the most basic of common sense. That you greet others the correct way. You are free to do what you please at your home and in your own country but once you step foot in someone else's house and in their land you act respectfully. I hope she has brains in the future because we know in some places doing the wrong greeting can get you hurt, go fuck that up in Afghanistan and watch you get shot some places take disrespect way too seriously

NOOOOOO YIREN WHYYYYYY like I get it but you could have just left or something

oh noo their korean fanbase will be mad .wait...

but she didn’t “refuse”. Whatever she was doing, she was being polite about it looking at the GIF.

Was the “Chinese don’t kneel” what she actually said or the journalist trying to get a big headline on the article.

I need more context.

Anyway, this controversy seems too extreme lol and is more about hating on Chinese. Like at the end of day it’s cultural differences.

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The situation isn't that big of a deal but she should have bowed. Cultural difference is bullshit unless its something seriously against your life like certain religion etc. The old saying " When in Rome do as the Romans do" applies heavily here. Properly greeting someone in their native form when you are in their country is a sign of respect. Everyone knows this or did we forget that? I'm suprised the woke crowd isn't dragging her considering that's the thing they bang on the most is race and respect of xyz culture. But seriously this is the most basic of common sense. That you greet others the correct way. You are free to do what you please at your home and in your own country but once you step foot in someone else's house and in their land you act respectfully. I hope she has brains in the future because we know in some places doing the wrong greeting can get you hurt, go fuck that up in Afghanistan and watch you get shot some places take disrespect way too seriously

why are we non koreans discussing what she should’ve done and what she shouldn’t have

5k upvotes..

i’m not gonna lie some of these are straight up taking advantage of this to pursue their no more chinese idols agenda

looked at the demographic

it’s like 90% men in their 40s (41%) then 50s and 30s equal

barely anyone in their 20s

yeah i’m not surprised

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If this was such a big deal to Yiren (not wanting to do the New Years bowing thing due to cultural differences) then her label probably couldve planned an excuse for Yiren, just have her leave temporarily or leave early due to feeling "sick".

But honestly, this wont impact EG in the slightest in Korea. Nobody bothers to listen to them anyway since Korean GP are tasteless wbk, and their fans and her solo stans wont care about this.

it’s not even that look at the demographic

it’s all dudes in their 40s and 50s

those men do NOT listen to everglow hsjshsjsj this won’t impact anything and looking at the comments it’s the same old chinese idol hating men who jump at the tiniest opportunity to trash on them

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it’s not even that look at the demographic

it’s all dudes in their 40s and 50s

those men do NOT listen to everglow hsjshsjsj this won’t impact anything and looking at the comments it’s the same old chinese idol hating men who jump at the tiniest opportunity to trash on them

Literal musty old incels hating on her, it figures lol.

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The situation isn't that big of a deal but she should have bowed. Cultural difference is bullshit unless its something seriously against your life like certain religion etc. The old saying " When in Rome do as the Romans do" applies heavily here. Properly greeting someone in their native form when you are in their country is a sign of respect. Everyone knows this or did we forget that? I'm suprised the woke crowd isn't dragging her considering that's the thing they bang on the most is race and respect of xyz culture. But seriously this is the most basic of common sense. That you greet others the correct way. You are free to do what you please at your home and in your own country but once you step foot in someone else's house and in their land you act respectfully. I hope she has brains in the future because we know in some places doing the wrong greeting can get you hurt, go fuck that up in Afghanistan and watch you get shot some places take disrespect way too seriously

That's the wrong take boy.

It's not like she's disrespecting their culture or she hasn't accepted their culture at all. There are certain things that goes against her values and her culture and it would be inappropriate for her to do so.

She isn't pulling the fucking Logan Paul who yelled and threw fish at people which cause a public disturbance in Japan. She doesn't want to kowtow cause in her culture it would be inappropriate to do so.

If Kpop wants to be global, they have to be open and able to accept different cultures around the world. They don't have to accept all but they must be understanding. It's like how the MC on weekly idol were understanding on why the two Chinese idols on Seventeen didn't kowtow.

Here is the problem that most people fail to acknowledge. What's more disgusting is the fact that she received thousands of hate comments and yet people who aren't even Chinese nor are Korean trying to judge the way she should've presented herself that day. This is the classic Red Herring Fallacy where people ignoring/avoiding the main issue at hand here. It's not what she did but it's how the knetz reacted and the racial discrimination she received. That's something the international community should discussing and potential condemning.

If you want to understand from for a Chinese perspective on this Kowtow issue, I spoke to a few C-forevers regarding to this topic and I shared their info on Twitter.