[theqoo] Min Heejin: "Do I feel sorry for NewJeans? HYBE should feel sorry for them, they should stop dividing young members"

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    Former ADOR CEO Min Heejin has commented on the NewJeans members’ potential return.

    During a live broadcast on the YouTube channel “Genre Yeouido” on the 4th, Min said, “HYBE should apologize to NewJeans,” adding, “They should never have split up the younger members into groups of two and three.”

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    source: https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/076/0004352960



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    1. Just why are we handing this kind of person a speaker?


    2. Wow ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Just impressive


    3. So random....... The court hearing is already all over, but she's still blaming HYBE?????????


    4. I just watched it, and she keeps dismissing the court ruling and refuting it ㅋㅋ She still thinks she's not at fault and only blames HYBE ㅋㅋ


    5. ㅎㅎ


    6. She seriously is such a bad adult


    7. She's the reason why they're divided, who is she gonna blame? ㅋ


    8. This program is the worst


    9. She probably also only reads the articles she wants to read ㅋㅋㅋ


    10. Why is she coming out on broadcast???

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    Well, she's right. Announcing Haerin and Hyejin is a decision Hybe made without MHJ's input and it's only possible purpose is dividing the fanbase. There was never any possibility that Haerin and Hyejin could start promoting without some decision being made about the other three. They should feel bad about that.

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    Well, she's right. Announcing Haerin and Hyejin is a decision Hybe made without MHJ's input and it's only possible purpose is dividing the fanbase. There was never any possibility that Haerin and Hyejin could start promoting without some decision being made about the other three. They should feel bad about that.

    mhj isn’t even in hybe anymore…why would hybe need her input about the group at all at this point?

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    Quote from Epyon-556

    Well, she's right. Announcing Haerin and Hyejin is a decision Hybe made without MHJ's input and it's only possible purpose is dividing the fanbase. There was never any possibility that Haerin and Hyejin could start promoting without some decision being made about the other three. They should feel bad about that.

    Four members and their parents met with HYBE.


    Two youngest members and their parents made decision that they want to continue working under ADOR, and be back to promotions.

    Two other members, plus third one which wasn't present at the meeting didn't make such decision yet.


    So how is that wrong for HYBE to announcing that two are back? You haven't seen the post later on that Hanni, Minji, and Danielle wrote a post/statement that they want to be back as well. The thing is they wrote it online instead of first notifying anyone in HYBE about it. So how could agency know? It's not like they sit in members heads lol.

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    The Korean media is now fact checking her:

    "하이브서 번 돈 없다" 연봉 랭킹 2위 민희진의 말말말 팩트체크 [이슈&톡]
    [티브이데일리 김지현 기자] “하이브에 번 돈이 없다.”, “돈을 제일 많이 벌어다 줬다.”, “하이브 감사는 불법이다”, “배임 혐의는 문제 없다.” 하이브와 256억 원 상당의 풋옵션 권리를 두고 다툼 중인 민희진 전 어도어 대표는 4일 유튜브 채널 '장르만 여의도'에 출연해…
    v.daum.net


    Recommend to open it and use AI translation. They clocked her well and so many lies that I don’t believe she has serious investors anymore so this is yet another PR damage control

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    They actually informed Ador, but Ador didn't get back to them. However, as soon as the news came out, Mindy bounced themselves into announcing their intention to return.


    Ador could've waited to converse with the other three to announce something, or even state that they are in discussions with the group, as a whole, to return.


    Do remember that in SK, everything is about image and perception. Do I think Ador cares about Mindy? Not particularly, no. Do I think they'd benefit from keeping them all? Yeah, if they want to go forward with them.

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    The Korean media is now fact-checking her:

    https://v.daum.net/v/20251204165938244


    Recommend opening it and using AI translation. They clocked her well and so many lies that I don’t believe she has serious investors anymore so this is yet another PR damage control

    She likely has, as no one is ever cancelled in SK. Even LSM and YHS can't be cancelled, and it's likely Bongo won't if found guilty of an IPO scam.


    Rapists get off with more than anything, too, and manage to have some semblance of a career.

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    Two being back creates the impressions that the other three aren't coming back. As we all had when the statement came out. Which is obviously why the others rushed to make that announcement in response. And it's been weeks upons weeks since the other three declared they do want to come back. If there is no harm in announcing it seperately what on Earth could be preventing them from making an announcement about Minji and Danielle. They have been available this entire time. 4 of them went into that meeting, they were ready to declare 2 of them the next day. Why would confirming their sincerity be a month long process? Either they agree to the same terms as Haerin and Hyejin or they do not. More time has passed since Danielle and Minji have declared their intention to return then between the end of the lawsuit when Haerin and Hyejin were still wholly against coming back and the announcement about Hyejin and Haerin.

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    Little miss mhj in spotlight again

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    Quote from Yinye

    The Korean media is now fact checking her:

    https://v.daum.net/v/20251204165938244


    Recommend to open it and use AI translation. They clocked her well and so many lies that I don’t believe she has serious investors anymore so this is yet another PR damage control

    is it the interview where she said she won't produce girl groups now, and will do a boy group instead? :mouth-zipped-raccoon::zipr:

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    Two being back creates the impression that the other three aren't coming back. As we all had when the statement came out. Which is obviously why the others rushed to make that announcement in response. And it's been weeks upon weeks since the other three declared they do want to come back. If there is no harm in announcing it separately what on Earth could be preventing them from announcing Minji and Danielle? They have been available this entire time. 4 of them went into that meeting, they were ready to declare 2 of them the next day. Why would confirming their sincerity be a month-long process? Either they agree to the same terms as Haerin and Hyejin or they do not. More time has passed since Danielle and Minji declared their intention to return than between the end of the lawsuit when Haerin and Hyejin were still wholly against coming back and the announcement about Hyejin and Haerin.

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    The 3:2 split is Ador’s mess. They need to sort it out.

    Someone made a pretty obvious point to me the other day. It's possible that Ador has already concluded negotiations with the group, but is waiting to announce something until ILLIT has concluded their promotions for their CB, so as not to overshadow it.


    That, and it's likely we won't get anything until New Year's, since there's not much point in making one now, as we're coming to the end of the year.

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    I would add that, at that point, the two youngest members had already changed their lawyers and had been meeting with Ador for a week.


    According to press reports, Minji, Danielle, and their lawyers went to the last negotiation with Ador, handed over a letter with their demands, and then left.


    Did Minji and Danielle know that Haerin and Hyein had changed lawyers? Or did they believe they would all appeal together as five on the last day?


    Considering Hanni was vacationing at Antarctica, and their press statement about coming back to Ador uninvited, it seems the latter is true.

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    There is absolutely no way Hanni, Minji and Danielle's legal representatives would be unaware that they are no longer the other 2's legal representatives or that they are coming into this meeting with a different stance nor make their clients unaware that half the party in their appeal isn't coming along. The girls have maintained that they make all decisions together throughout this year because they know how important that is. Everyone does, Keena coming back destroyed the rest of Fiftyfifty.


    Hanni should sue her legal representative for criminal malpractice if they destroyed her career by leaving a meeting with the other members and ADOR early om her behalf for no reason.


    Or maybe it didn't happen that way and Haerin and Hyejin were just as surprised to be announced seperately as anyone (as we too often hear from idols) and it's Hybe that just didn't care about the damage their announcement would do. The latter seems way simpler and more likely to me.

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    Quote from Epyon-556

    The girls have maintained that they make all decisions together throughout this year because they know how important that is. Everyone does, Keena coming back destroyed the rest of Fiftyfifty.

    I’m aware they’ve said those things in media interviews.


    They also said they were never going back to Ador, and yet here we are.


    Haerin and Hyein changed their lawyers; they were no longer using the same legal team as Hanni, Danielle, and Minji. That’s just the reality.


    The united front is gone, and that isn’t Ador’s fault, since Haerin and Hyein sought better legal counsel on their own.


    The rest of my comment is speculation, I’ll admit that.


    But if Minji, Hanni, and Danielle knew Haerin and Hyein had been negotiating with Ador for a week, why didn’t they do the same? Why wait until almost the last day?


    The confidence they had about moving forward as five suggests they didn’t know Haerin and Hyein were negotiating with Ador.

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    honestly I feel like everyone here is just speculating, either thing can end being true for this.


    Maybe Ador just went ahead with the announcement knowing they hadn't actually agreed on terms because they don't care about how it hurts the group.


    Or maybe MDH are being very unreasonable with their demands, given that they arent really in a position to make demands, Ador went ahead with the strongarm move and announced HH.


    Maybe the girls actually arent all on the same page at all.


    Mayne none of that is true.


    Point is none of you or I are in a position to be demanding apologies from anyone yet because we dont know whats actually happening.

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    If we remove all biases, then I think the most logical conclusion is they announced it early to put pressure on MHD. They most likely had certain demands that Ador wasn't going to budge on. So, they announced HH early since they were willing to agree, and this puts pressure on MHD to budge on a deal that's better for Ador. We've already seen the mediaplay about MHD are spoiled brats and HH's image is being sanitized. It makes sense for them to go back because dealing with legal fees for most of your life isn't ideal.


    Also, the elephant in the room is NewJeans in a year without any releases outperformed LSF and Illit in some key metrics. I think that tells you all you need to know why a deal is most likely going to happen because there's too much money to be made. If NewJeans without any new music is still outperforming other top groups, then imagine how a comeback performs. I don't even think the music has to be great because the brand is very strong where people are going to check anyways and people just want to see the group perform again imo.

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    If we remove all biases, then I think the most logical conclusion is they announced it early to put pressure on MHD. They most likely had certain demands that Ador wasn't going to budge on. So, they announced HH early since they were willing to agree, and this puts pressure on MHD to budge on a deal that's better for Ador. We've already seen the mediaplay about MHD are spoiled brats and HH's image is being sanitized. It makes sense for them to go back because dealing with legal fees for most of your life isn't ideal.


    Also, the elephant in the room is NewJeans in a year without any releases outperformed LSF and Illit in some key metrics. I think that tells you all you need to know why a deal is most likely going to happen because there's too much money to be made. If NewJeans without any new music is still outperforming other top groups, then imagine how a comeback performs. I don't even think the music has to be great because the brand is very strong where people are going to check anyways and people just want to see the group perform again imo.

    Yea I don't disagree this is a likely case, and that's what I meant by my comment on strong arming them with the HH announcement. Honestly if that's the case, even if NJs were being very unreasonable in their demands, trying to pressure them with the announcement was wrong and probably warrants some apology or explanation.


    I'm not saying that much of what y'all are speculating isn't rooted in some logic, but it is speculation and we just don't know yet what is actually happening. I just think it's wrong for MHJ to be generating headlines like this and stirring up tokkis even more with her own speculation.

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    Min Heejin is such a great character for kpop stans it's actually hilarious. She is not an idol. She doesn't care if people like her or not. She doesn't care about what she says. She has openly said she herself never cared for the idol industry and she also makes a shit load of money off them. All the uptight, conservative stans losing their minds over her is so funny to me.

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    Quote from Epyon-556

    There is absolutely no way Hanni, Minji and Danielle's legal representatives would be unaware that they are no longer the other 2's legal representatives or that they are coming into this meeting with a different stance nor make their clients unaware that half the party in their appeal isn't coming along. The girls have maintained that they make all decisions together throughout this year because they know how important that is. Everyone does, Keena coming back destroyed the rest of Fiftyfifty.


    Hanni should sue her legal representative for criminal malpractice if they destroyed her career by leaving a meeting with the other members and ADOR early om her behalf for no reason.


    Or maybe it didn't happen that way and Haerin and Hyejin were just as surprised to be announced seperately as anyone (as we too often hear from idols) and it's Hybe that just didn't care about the damage their announcement would do. The latter seems way simpler and more likely to me.

    Mind you, the older 3 are also represented by a different law firm and the meeting where they "went in, gave demands and left" (no source reporting this whatsoever) was a meeting were the other 2 were present.


    Weirdo is just lying to cap for a company for no reason

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    They actually informed Ador, but Ador didn't get back to them. However, as soon as the news came out, Mindy bounced themselves into announcing their intention to return.


    Ador could've waited to converse with the other three to announce something, or even state that they are in discussions with the group, as a whole, to return.


    Do remember that in SK, everything is about image and perception. Do I think Ador cares about Mindy? Not particularly, no. Do I think they'd benefit from keeping them all? Yeah, if they want to go forward with them.

    I mean I think maybe you are right Ador could have waited for the other 3


    That is, if they chose to show up instead of going on marathons and visiting penguins you know just an idea, that might help things out

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    The most likely to me is


    Ador gave them deadlines to get back. I mean the 5 of them could have appealed so Ador gave them time to do it if they want


    2 came back. 3 didn't give an answer. Of the 3 one went to prepare for a marathon while another went to visit penguins so they obviously had their priorities straight


    After the deadline, Ador just confirmed the 2 who chose to come back since the 3 went MIA. Like you expect them to come back from visiting penguins before they make an announcement? Why should they be the one waiting if the other 3 literally have other priorities?


    And in a panic moment seeing the news, the remaining 3 self-proclaim themselves to be back without informing Ador


    Now they are stuck because the 3 want to be back but are probably not OK with the terms of being back.


    Then we have this witch who obviously already moved on from the 5 of them and made her own company to debut her new batch of underage boys most likely

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    I mean I think maybe you are right Ador could have waited for the other 3


    That is, if they chose to show up instead of going on marathons and visiting penguins you know just an idea, that might help things out

    Well... they don't have to be there for every step of negotiations.


    Could've always taken a step out of Mother's book lololololol

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    And this is why so many of us are pissed at Ador:

    Quote from icyruios

    I mean I think maybe you are right Ador could have waited for the other 3


    That is, if they chose to show up instead of going on marathons and visiting penguins you know just an idea, that might help things out


    Their dumbass media response led to a dumbass media circus and dumbass fanfics.


    It's been a month and we still have people willfully and deliberately ignoring that Minji and Danielle (who has not run a marathon in months, nice new detail you made up to be mad at) were in discussion with Ador before the company announced Hyein and Haerin had returned. And in those discussions, the younger members were also present.


    All of this could have been avoided with a simple "Hyein and Haerin have agreed to return, we are in active discussions with the other 3"

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    Yea I don't disagree this is a likely case, and that's what I meant by my comment on strong arming them with the HH announcement. Honestly if that's the case, even if NJs were being very unreasonable in their demands, trying to pressure them with the announcement was wrong and probably warrants some apology or explanation.


    I'm not saying that much of what y'all are speculating isn't rooted in some logic, but it is speculation and we just don't know yet what is actually happening. I just think it's wrong for MHJ to be generating headlines like this and stirring up tokkis even more with her own speculation.

    That’s why the PR game is very dirty. Ador played the game and it’s working for the most part. Most people are tired of the case to dig deeper. It’s why the current narrative about HH being seen in a positive light and breaking away from the mean girls is working . Of course it’s most likely not happening but it’s an easy angle to run with. I think most know they’re not going to run with subunit or add members but it doesn’t hurt to play PR to put pressure on MHD


    I think if we remove biases we can say MHJ is mostly looking out for herself and not so much the group. If she cared, then I think she wouldn’t be quiet for 12 months, and we all know how loud she is 😅 I’m not saying she’s heartless because she still cares enough, but she’s most likely like most execs she’s fighting against imo.


    Personally, I don’t think she should be doing a media tour because we all know they would talk about NewJeans. However, I think her stirring the pot about keeping the group together does shift some of the narratives Ador allowed happen. I feel this all could’ve been easily been avoided if Ador didn’t want to apply media pressure and say they’re currently negotiating with group

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    Thing is Mother likes to hide behind other people and let others take the hit for her and shield herself


    So I respect the girls actually putting themselves out there and fighting rather than sit back and hide like Mother

    I wouldn't say she was exactly hiding, but she was negligent in her duties to look over contracts etc.

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