Absolutely. But I do hope he understood the dangerous path he took. When you take extreme stances on things that can have a profound affects on the lives of others it's very likely will paint a target on you. We all have freedom speech but not freedom from consequences of our actions. Example of I started calling everyone all sorts of disgusting bigoted things as an example I would be banned and rightfully cancelled. Not saying his death is justified or right, just pointing out that when we do things unfortunately it's not in a vacuum and the rest of the world does have a vote and sometimes it's a crazy person with no value for life that gets their vote.
When you take extreme stances on things that can have a profound affects on the lives of others it's very likely will paint a target on you.
Please provide examples of these "extreme stances" - and don't confuse Charlie's words with those of Steven Crowder or Nick Fuentes, as so many on Tik Tok seem to do.
Appreciate the Crime scenes explanation.
Please provide examples of these "extreme stances"
um, idk.....
basing his entire personality on the invalidation of the rights of anyone not a straight white male???
um, idk.....
basing his entire personality on the invalidation of the rights of anyone not a straight white male???
Haven't seen many 'Prove me wrong' debates. Few I've seen Kirk is Pro-Life and Two Sexes that caused most passionate conversations. Students didn't sway his convictions, so it was a solid airing of view points. It has to be beneficial for students to be hear a different POV. During an era of Universities censoring Speech. Where Students fear saying the wrong thing. Kirk brought Free Speech to the Campus in the open.
Haven't seen many 'Prove me wrong' debates. Few I've seen Kirk is Pro-Life and Two Sexes that caused most passionate conversations. Students didn't sway his convictions, so it was a solid airing of view points. It has to be beneficial for students to be hear a different POV. During an era of Universities censoring Speech. Where Students fear saying the wrong thing. Kirk brought Bigoted Speech to the Campus in the open.
um, idk.....
basing his entire personality on the invalidation of the rights of anyone not a straight white male???
Exactly why I didn't respond to the other person lol🤣 itw not like it's a secret or hidden everything he stood for or said is open public knowledge you can see read and even watch everything.
He did at times bring good debates to college but he also brought bad ones that would make things worse in the long run
Have you tried Googling them? Because he covered basically the entire spectrum of 'isms and 'phobias with his hateful & regressive rhetoric, not to mention his openly Christofascist agenda of wanting to obliterate our separation of church & state. Yeah, guys like Fuentes might be more forthcoming and animated about all their core beliefs that make them terrible people, but make no mistake, Kirk believed all the same things. He just hid his agenda of brainwashing America's impressionable youth behind the facade of calm, open debate.
Haven't seen many 'Prove me wrong' debates. Few I've seen Kirk is Pro-Life and Two Sexes that caused most passionate conversations. Students didn't sway his convictions, so it was a solid airing of view points. It has to be beneficial for students to be hear a different POV. During an era of Universities censoring Speech. Where Students fear saying the wrong thing. Kirk brought Free Speech to the Campus in the open.
He never let anyone sway him because that would defeat the entire purpose of his scheme, which was NOT to approach any topic with the sincere intent of debating and potentially being open to opposing views, but to merely convince anyone who disagrees with his own existing views that he's right and they're wrong. If someone clearly got the best of him in any exchange, he would refuse to acknowledge it and stubbornly stick to his guns, no pun intended, or weasel his way out of it by changing the topic entirely.
Conservaties want to canonize him as some great philosopher and champion of free speech. He was a dime-a-dozen propagandist, nothing more. Kirk didn't bring free speech to anyone. It was already codified in the Constitution long before he was born. Kirk, like most modern Republicans, only ever championed one particular part of the Constitution, even above the lives of his fellow Americans -- ironically, the one that got himself killed.
Exactly why I didn't respond to the other person lol🤣 itw not like it's a secret or hidden everything he stood for or said is open public knowledge you can see read and even watch everything.
He did at times bring good debates to college but he also brought bad ones that would make things worse in the long run
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like, the dude died, sure. but that doesn't mean we should start validating his horrendous takes.
and imo, no one should be obligated to feel sorry for him when he lacked empathy for the literal kids who go to school then acquire childhood trauma just to preserve the 2nd amendment.
i personally do not feel sorry for someone who will openly and shamelessly state that the lives of children and adults are "worth it" for the sake of the 2nd amendment.
mind you gun deaths are the leading cause of death among children so the fact that he would prioritize some stupid amendment of the lives of children says quite a lot about him.
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like, the dude died, sure. but that doesn't mean we should start validating his horrendous takes.
and imo, no one should be obligated to feel sorry for him when he lacked empathy for the literal kids who go to school then acquire childhood trauma just to preserve the 2nd amendment.
i personally do not feel sorry for someone who will openly and shamelessly state that the lives of children and adults are "worth it" for the sake of the 2nd amendment.
mind you gun deaths are the leading cause of death among children so the fact that he would prioritize some stupid amendment of the lives of children says quite a lot about him.
He doesn't deserve empathy he's literally in record publicly stating that empathy is a fake tool and doesn't exist 🤡 🤡 . Yes he died that sux for his family BUT so did Hitler and other Bad people, their deaths do not absolve them if their bad deeds not does it absolve them from criticism.
The things he did was directly responsible for his death. You cannot invite extreme ideology and not expect someone to go far enough to actually execute it. It's Stochastic terrorism
You use inflammatory speech under the guise of free speech knowing that statistically speaking it's a matter of when not if someone paying attention to your rhetoric decides to act on it.
He doesn't deserve empathy he's literally in record publicly stating that empathy is a fake tool and doesn't exist 🤡 🤡 . Yes he died that sux for his family BUT so did Hitler and other Bad people, their deaths do not absolve them if their bad deeds not does it absolve them from criticism.
The things he did was directly responsible for his death. You cannot invite extreme ideology and not expect someone to go far enough to actually execute it. It's Stochastic terrorism
You use inflammatory speech under the guise of free speech knowing that statistically speaking it's a matter of when not if someone paying attention to your rhetoric decides to act on it.
Yuppp.
Thats why I hate people tryna guilt trip saying "you have no humanity in you." Like...where was his humanity while publicly endorsing tools that have taken the lives of innocent children while also saying its "worth it"?
Where was his humanity when he was calling someone murdered in broad daylight by a police office, a "scumbag"?? Where was his respect for the dead then?
I saw a video of a black child asking him why he believes the civil rights act should've never been passed. He responded with some bullshit answer then when the child said "but I wouldn't be here" guess what? he responded with "exactly." Where was his humanity then? Where was his respect then?
Free speech my fucking booty
He doesn't deserve empathy he's literally in record publicly stating that empathy is a fake tool and doesn't exist 🤡 🤡 . Yes he died that sux for his family BUT so did Hitler and other Bad people, their deaths do not absolve them if their bad deeds not does it absolve them from criticism.
The things he did was directly responsible for his death. You cannot invite extreme ideology and not expect someone to go far enough to actually execute it. It's Stochastic terrorism
You use inflammatory speech under the guise of free speech knowing that statistically speaking it's a matter of when not if someone paying attention to your rhetoric decides to act on it.
The man literally laughed at an old ass man nearly getting bashed in with a hammer. Not understanding why he's owed more courtesy than he gave anybody else.
In his own words, gun deaths are necessary to protect 2A. Call me evil but I'd rather the people advocating for that nonsense bare the consequences instead of innocent bystanders and kids. No different from the CEO behind the Titan.
The man literally laughed at an old ass man nearly getting bashed in with a hammer. Not understanding why he's owed more courtesy than he gave anybody else.
In his own words, gun deaths are necessary to protect 2A. Call me evil but I'd rather the people advocating for that nonsense bare the consequences instead of innocent bystanders and kids. No different from the CEO behind the Titan.
Also find it extremely hypocritical that the same ones demanding empathy from minorities and screaming "no one should be killed because of their political affiliation" were the same ones quiet when a democratic lawmaker and her family were murdered/injured in their own home by a conservative man disguised as police
Yet again, empathy conveniently disappeared at that time but oh, Charlie Kirk deserves a moment of silence 
Also find it extremely hypocritical that the same ones demanding empathy from minorities and screaming "no one should be killed because of their political affiliation" were the same ones quiet when a democratic lawmaker and her family were murdered/injured in their own home by a conservative man disguised as police
Yet again, empathy conveniently disappeared at that time but oh, Charlie Kirk deserves a moment of silence
The amount of fanfare and honors behind this guy, you'd think he did something for this country instead of being a grifting podcaster.
And don't get me started on how the "free speech" dipshits are sending bomb and death threats to anyone that criticizes him or even quote the bullshit he was saying
This.
Trump had the flags lowered at half-staff for a longer period of time just for Kirk and I'm like wha- what exactly did he do apart from being a loud, wrong idiot trying to pass his bitter takes as "free speech" while debating people he's significantly older than?
One thing that has me rollling, however, is his wife trying to be menacing 
like girl, he brought it upon himself.
this situation is quite literally the epitome of words coming back to bite people in the ass so how is it anyone else's fault that he couldn't be a decent human being
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Trump had the flags lowered at half-staff for a longer period of time just for Kirk and I'm like wha- what exactly did he do apart from being a loud, wrong idiot trying to pass his bitter takes as "free speech" while debating people he's significantly older than?
One thing that has me rollling, however, is his wife trying to be menacing
like girl, he brought it upon himself.
this situation is quite literally the epitome of words coming back to bite people in the ass so how is it anyone else's fault that he couldn't be a decent human being
So have the people who have gotten themselves fired from their jobs for their statements then. Its just a horrid circle jerk that will continue on and on until we can come together as a country. I cant support either party as they have both gone off the deep end. The States of America is how it should be labeled as there is nothing united about us at this point 😭😭😭
A dude on Threads was going round threatening people that made Charlie Kirk jokes with doxxing/reporting to their employers.
I found, and posted, a picture of his car, two birth announcements showing he is the baby daddy of two kids to two mothers within a year, his job and two different screenshots of him (clearly over 30) posting gross comments to 18 year old girls to take their clothes off.
He sent me a grovelling message on Insta asking me to remove the posts as I'm invading his privacy.
I found his current partner and messaged her the sleazy screenshots.
Fuck you Kirk fan trying to be tough man.
Display MoreA dude on Threads was going round threatening people that made Charlie Kirk jokes with doxxing/reporting to their employers.
I found, and posted, a picture of his car, two birth announcements showing he is the baby daddy of two kids to two mothers within a year, his job and two different screenshots of him (clearly over 30) posting gross comments to 18 year old girls to take their clothes off.
He sent me a grovelling message on Insta asking me to remove the posts as I'm invading his privacy.
I found his current partner and messaged her the sleazy screenshots.
Fuck you Kirk fan trying to be tough man.
Good. It's funny he asked you for mercy lol one thing I hate more than anything else it's these people because they are complete hypocrites, hypocrites are worse than scum. These people are dishing out everything but tell everyone else they can't do it and gaslight you too. Kirk famously told everyone empathy was fake and a tool of fake weak liberals. If empathy doesn't exist why the hell is anyone wasting it on him and people like that?
So have the people who have gotten themselves fired from their jobs for their statements then. Its just a horrid circle jerk that will continue on and on until we can come together as a country. I cant support either party as they have both gone off the deep end. The States of America is how it should be labeled as there is nothing united about us at this point 😭😭😭
Yeah but people need to stop acting like he was simply "expressing his political opinion." It goes way beyond that and a "political opinion" should NEVER entail actively degrading minorities.
Coming from a country who has extremism problem and I have seen literally whole lot of people, killed, burned just because a bigot mullah or religious person decided to justify hating on them for their beliefs, I totally believe if some person is inciting hate against minorities in the name of free speech, he/she should put into prison or get murdered for all I care
You can debate free speech all you want, but when people like these starts to get a platform, they ends up radiclizing whole generations & sometimes it results in decades of oppression for some ethnic groups.
We were a lot modern in 70s but then an extremely religious general threw away democratic government & ruled the country for 10 years. He eradicated almost all liberals by either killing or deportation, ones who left they became to afraid to speak. As a result pakistan became a religious extremist country where mullahs have too much power. They are allowed to say every hateful thing during debates in universities while liberals have to be careful while uttering even a sentence.
So, believe me this death was good for many people he was spewing hate against, also for youth, he was going to influence in future
In the wake of the assassination is people who celebrate the murder. Shoe in the Head influencer take on it.
In the wake of people being doxxed, losing their jobs, losing their shows, being denied entry to their country etc for critiquing him (sometimes just quotes of his own hateful rhetoric), a fox news anchor said we should round up the homeless and kill them. 2 encampmens were shot up just a day later. Free of consequence or backlash
Free speech only applies to hate speech against the vulnerable apparently
Funny how charlie kirks critics have to be at higher moral standard than he did
while people are being doxxed, losing their jobs, losing their shows, being denied entry to their country etc for critiquing him (sometimes just quotes), a fox news anchor said we should round up the homeless and kill them.
Free speech only applies to hate speech against the vulnerable apparently
Right.
Funny how they screaming "free speech" but then are getting triggered over a news anchor calling Kirk what he was--a racist bigot--and calling for that person to be fired.
Right.
Funny how they screaming "free speech" but then are getting triggered over a news anchor calling Kirk what he was--a racist bigot--and calling for that person to be fired.
Like this man would not be at the front line cracking jokes and conspiracies if it had someone like Hasan
International Forum, Free Speech is not a Right anywhere else.
Do some Americans really think they were the only country with free speech? WTF.
The USA is not even in the Top 50 anymore:
You really are in the most ignorant bubble if you think other countries don't have free speech because lots of countries have way more of it.
Clarify, US is only God given Freedom of Speech. Dribble on dude.
Clarify, US is only God given Freedom of Speech. Dribble on dude.
what the absolute fuck are you on about
Seem to remember Countries granting Free Speech and other Rights in their Constitution. With the snap of the finger a Prime Minister nullifies a Right as it is deemed appropriate to resolve an issue. Rights are subject to interpretation by the Government.
i.e. Say "F-Muslims" in the UK will get you arrested.
Display MoreComing from a country who has extremism problem and I have seen literally whole lot of people, killed, burned just because a bigot mullah or religious person decided to justify hating on them for their beliefs, I totally believe if some person is inciting hate against minorities in the name of free speech, he/she should put into prison or get murdered for all I care
You can debate free speech all you want, but when people like these starts to get a platform, they ends up radiclizing whole generations & sometimes it results in decades of oppression for some ethnic groups.
We were a lot modern in 70s but then an extremely religious general threw away democratic government & ruled the country for 10 years. He eradicated almost all liberals by either killing or deportation, ones who left they became to afraid to speak. As a result pakistan became a religious extremist country where mullahs have too much power. They are allowed to say every hateful thing during debates in universities while liberals have to be careful while uttering even a sentence.
So, believe me this death was good for many people he was spewing hate against, also for youth, he was going to influence in future
How does this sewage tank of a forum even still exist?
All of a sudden Trump and Biden directly got Roseanne and Tucker Carlson pulled from the air 
Because calling black women monkeys and being cancelled by the public+ Lying about election fraud, being part of the cause behind a failed insurrection, then spreading lies about that, then costing your conservative network so many millions they pull your show is the same as the president not liking...his own quotes being aired and having the FCC threaten networks 
Nvm I am better. Have fun.
tips.fbi.gov is the place to report murder incitement, though, right?
Maybe it's different in the UK. It's ok, I'll find out. I have screenshots, recordings of the report, I even saved the link to archive.is.
Maybe no one will care. Maybe someone will care about the user. Maybe someone will care about the website. We will find out.
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