Top 5 5th gen girl groups!

  • Top 5 as in terms of success or in terms of music? You should define a start date and just tell us if we count groups like FiftyFifty and Secret Number even.


    However, it seems predictable that the top 5 would be filled with big label/big subsidiary groups. Might be more interesting to predict which outside group will be most likely to break into it (be the IVE, I guess).

  • Tbh, a couple of those groups feel rather neglected, while KK cb seems To have been a rather damp squib. However, they all have potential if their labels manage them right.

  • Top 5 as in terms of success or in terms of music? You should define a start date and just tell us if we count groups like FiftyFifty and Secret Number even.


    However, it seems predictable that the top 5 would be filled with big label/big subsidiary groups. Might be more interesting to predict which outside group will be most likely to break into it (be the IVE, I guess).

    True! I meant success I’ll update now! Musics way to subjective to make topic :/

  • That’s literally the same list I said ^^


    I think they will be a couple dark horses though! I just know AtHeart will be big and Izna is already picking up support fast :!:


    Also SMN has Hitomi from Izone and BDC has Yihyun who trends a lot for her visual so it’s possible they can get hits too :!:

  • That’s literally the same list I said ^^


    I think they will be a couple dark horses though! I just know AtHeart will be big and Izna is already picking up support fast :!:


    Also SMN has Hitomi from Izone and BDC has Yihyun who trends a lot for her visual so it’s possible they can get hits too :!:

    I guess I wasn’t clear enough. I meant ‘unpopular’ in terms of ranking among bm,illit, meovv, kiiikiii groups. and our list is different not literally same. ?(


    edit: I just saw your post.

  • Honestly, I don't think KiiiKiii is going to hold onto that spot. 2-3 of the top groups of the 5th gen hasn't debuted yet.


    The current top 5 is very volatile and the top 5 is going to look very different in 2 years. I think the issue with all of these groups they haven't had back to back hits to solidify themselves as a top group.


    Aespa had Next Level -> Savage

    IVE had Eleven -> Love Dive -> After Like

    Every NewJeans song was a hit

    Idle had Tomboy -> Nxde -> Queencard .

    LSF had Antifragile -> Unforgiven/EPTBW -> Perfect Night -> Easy


    I'm a firm believer that a group need 2-3 consecutive hits to solidify themselves as a top group.


    The issue with groups like Itzy and Stayc when talking about 4th gen they didn't have 3 consecutive hits to solidify themselves. I think a lot of the groups mentioned in the OP are struggling with that. I like Illit but they fumbled magnetic hype by following it up with Cherish. I think do the dance would've done much better for them as the follow up.


    I count the new lineup Fifty Fifty as 5th gen tbh. I think presentation and members are vastly different than the original Fifty Fifty. I think they have potential to have long careers, but I don't see them being a top group. I don't think they can do enough to make international fans outside of Asia like them. However, I think their reception is improving. However, I don't think we've had a situation where a group was considered a top group while having weak international fandom. I learned not to underestimate Channelle because it's not talked about enough how she made a song that wasn't in the top 100 reach a new peak at #33


    Anyway, I can go on about this, but until these groups have 2-3 consecutive hits, then their places aren't solidified in the top 5. The top 5 in 2027 will look much different than what's in the op imo

  • Well you’ll be surprised! You could argue Ive and Njz and Lsfm weren’t predicted to be top groups!


    Ive isn’t from a big4 ( i know SSE is still consider a big company etc) and they became a top group!


    And Lsfm and Njz were the first official hype gg for sometime and no one knew how they would do and both became successful but it could have gone either way :/


    I would say the same but opposite for Nmixx who many considered would be a leading group being from JYP and very talented! Anything is possible :oops:

  • I don't pay attention to metrics too often, but I don't see any of these other groups on track to overcome an SM GG or HYBE slop.


    IVE was boosted with Wonyoung. The only real surprise was idle tbh.

  • Umm, no.


    Kiof might be racist but they are still #3


    KiiiKiii shouldnt even be on this list and H2H should be below MEOVV.

    nah, KIOF is 5th. I personally wouldn't include KiiiKii in the current top 5. KIOF ranking is a bit skewed because on the international side they're top 3 but in Korea they're most likely 5th. Their only hit song in Korea was sticky but individually they seemed to standout more than other 5th gen groups.


    I think Meovv and H2H are about even, and it depends on what you value more. The clear top 2 is Illit and Babymonster imo.

  • nah, KIOF is 5th. I personally wouldn't include KiiiKii in the current top 5. KIOF ranking is a bit skewed because on the international side they're top 3 but in Korea they're most likely 5th. Their only hit song in Korea was sticky but individually they seemed to standout more than other 5th gen groups.


    I think Meovv and H2H are about even, and it depends on what you value more. The clear top 2 is Illit and Babymonster imo.

    Interesting that you say KIOF is 5th domestically because I personally don't think Hands Up or The Chase have come close to Sticky + Igloo + Midas Touch..although I'm not even sure how big of hits those were.


    I do agree about the Top2, though.

  • Based on their track record and performance overall in the chart and sales


    1. BabyMonster

    2. Illit



    3. Hearts2hearts



    4. Meovv or Kiiikiii depending on what's count for people

    5. Kiss of life


  • Interesting that you say KIOF is 5th domestically because I personally don't think Hands Up or The Chase have come close to Sticky + Igloo + Midas Touch..although I'm not even sure how big of hits those were.


    I do agree about the Top2, though.

    I forgot about igloo. If we're looking at charts then it goes:


    Sticky (Peak position: 3)

    Hands Up (Peak position: 12)

    I do me - Kiii Kiii (Peak position: 13)

    Style (Peak position: 17)

    The chase (Peak Position: 21)

    Igloo (Peak position: 26)

    Meow (Peak Position: 30)



    I would've agreed that KIOF is #3, but Lips, Hips, Kiss peaked at 88. I am unsure if they have the same hold as they had in 2024. I do say we have to respect they were able to have a successful world tour and songs that stood out. However, controversy aside because I don't think it affected them outside of North America, Latin America, and parts of Europe, but it feels they're on the decline. It's why I have Illit and Meovv ahead of them.

  • Interesting Good Beardstroke GIF

  • I agree with what you said in the comparison between Meovv and Kiiikiii, and I would go further by saying that I think Meovv has the potential to even surpass BM in the future. As you mentioned, Meovv’s visibility and recognition are steadily increasing. Alongside ‘Hands Up,’ ‘Drop Top’ has also climbed the charts.

    Meovv’s debut and early songs might not have made much noise, but I think this was due to their lower visibility at the time. After ‘Hands Up,’ the members’ recognition significantly grew, and their popularity is steadily rising. Moreover, if Meovv continues to release public-friendly and catchy songs in the future (which is very likely), they are likely to maintain this increasing popularity. For Kiiikiii, however, unlike Meovv, there is a trend of declining visibility.

  • Anyway, the REAL top 5 5th gen GGs list. I am being totally objective here smth many of y'all are incapable of.


    1. ILLIT

    Biggest hit. Magnetic alone has more streams than most 5th gen GGs. Great album sales. Hot 100 entry. Need I say more?


    2. BABYMONSTER

    Biggest fandom by far. Every song they put out does well on Spotify. Minor hits in SK with Sheesh and Drip. AND, they have the biggest 5th gen tour.


    3. KISS OF LIFE

    1 solid hit with Sticky and a sold out world tour. Midas Touch and Igloo also did very well on Spotify. Album sales are okay. Could be better but its fine. FIRST k-pop group to perform at one of the biggest festivals in Europe.


    Their 2025 results aren't that strong but its not like their competitors are putting out chart topping hits, not even close so yes, KIOF are still #3


    4. Hearts2hearts

    Only giving them this spot cuz of their album sales. Idk anything else about them.


    5. MEOVV

    Ppl seem to be most impressed by them cuz they are doing better with each release but in reality, they have exactly ONE popular song and that's not enough to rank them higher. Album sales are good but weaker than H2H. The Chase also had more streams than Hands Up last time I checked

  • Songs that stood out? Are you really choosing to describe KIOF hits with that?


    Igloo alone has more streams than KiiKii, Meovv, and H2H's entire discographies. Bffr. None of these groups are even half as big as KIOF. :eyeroll-pepe:

    Of course it would have more streams becasue the song was popular in 2024 and these groups just debuted. Kiss of Life is on the decline because Lips, Hips, Kiss should've performed much better. If they're ahead of the other groups by a big margin then why does that song have much less streams than the songs mentioned?


    Nothing wrong with being in the top 5, but they had a shaky 2025 and I believe both Meovv and H2H have more momentum than KIOF. I believe KIOF will bounce back but at the moment they're behind H2H and Meovv.

  • I am ready for a 6th Generation list


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  • You've listed some of my favorites. :holding-back-tears:

    I'd be happy if at least half of them soared into stardom.

  • You've listed some of my favorites. :holding-back-tears:

    I'd be happy if at least half of them soared into stardom.

    great taste :borahae:

    I am ready for a 6th Generation list


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    knets are crazy ^^ 6th gen shouldn’t be a thing until at least 2030!

  • Of course it would have more streams becasue the song was popular in 2024 and these groups just debuted. Kiss of Life is on the decline because Lips, Hips, Kiss should've performed much better. If they're ahead of the other groups by a big margin then why does that song have much less streams than the songs mentioned?


    Nothing wrong with being in the top 5, but they had a shaky 2025 and I believe both Meovv and H2H have more momentum than KIOF. I believe KIOF will bounce back but at the moment they're behind H2H and Meovv.

    Wdym KIOF are on the decline lol. :cryingr:


    Not every song will be a hit. Did anyone say ILLIT was on decline cuz Cherish didn't do as well as Magnetic? Obviously no.


    Meovv's Drop Top completely flopped, never entered Melon top 100 unlike LHK. Why don't you take that into consideration? You expect LHK to smash on the charts when KIOF was coming off a controversy, arguably the biggest in Kpop this year but ignore Meovv's title track being absent from ALL charts.


    Don't cherry-pick songs here lmao. Success-wise, both Meovv and H2H are not at KIOF's level yet. That doesn't mean it will stay this way. But currently they are not.

  • I agree with what you said in the comparison between Meovv and Kiiikiii, and I would go further by saying that I think Meovv has the potential to even surpass BM in the future. As you mentioned, Meovv’s visibility and recognition are steadily increasing. Alongside ‘Hands Up,’ ‘Drop Top’ has also climbed the charts.

    Meovv’s debut and early songs might not have made much noise, but I think this was due to their lower visibility at the time. After ‘Hands Up,’ the members’ recognition significantly grew, and their popularity is steadily rising. Moreover, if Meovv continues to release public-friendly and catchy songs in the future (which is very likely), they are likely to maintain this increasing popularity. For Kiiikiii, however, unlike Meovv, there is a trend of declining visibility.

    Don't remember drop top doing well in the chart

    I think he enter the chart but it was in the bottom of the chart and didn't stay there for long


    I think the problem of kiiikiii debut was that their debut promo was too heavily focus on the mediaplay with Starship trying to push this narrative that they are the " new newjeans" and pushing for the battle of 5th gen gg in chart with h2h

    And now that they came back and kinda give up on the mediaplay their digital performance are going nowhere

    Members like Jiyul that got a lot of buzz at debut seems to have lost all their attention

    And starship doesn't seem to push Daum who's the member that korea keep hyping up


    Also we need to remember that the reason Meovv members seems more "popular" is because they are under Blacklabel, yg and teddy have always have a tendencies to love push their group members in solo promotions very early compare to starship


    Not every song will be a hit. Did anyone say ILLIT was on decline cuz Cherish didn't do as well as Magnetic? Obviously no.

    Lmaoo i think you need to go out more often

    Cuz everybody was saying that Magnetic was just luck for Illit

    That they were on the decline

    That Illit couldn't never recover from hybe drama and cherish was the proof of it

  • Huh :pepewhat:


    Wtf are you talking about :cryingr: #2 for BaeMon is perfectly fine bffr

  • Not every song will be a hit. Did anyone say ILLIT was on decline cuz Cherish didn't do as well as Magnetic? Obviously no.

    Meovv's Drop Top completely flopped, never entered Melon top 100 unlike LHK. Why don't you take that into consideration? You expect LHK to smash on the charts when KIOF was coming off a controversy, arguably the biggest in Kpop this year but ignore Meovv's title track being absent from ALL charts.

    said many times here.


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    I also remember Drop Top climbing even higher on the charts, but unfortunately, I haven’t seen any tweet or post about it.


    also meow charted on melon


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    illit and kiof are declining compared to their previous status. ı cant say same thing for meovv.

  • The way I even ranked BM above my own faves, KIOF but sure jan I am not objective just because I chose to give ILLIT their well deserved #1 for Magnetic and their HOT100 entry. :boompepe:


    Like does that not matter for y'all or have y'all forgotten about it since your faves have no chance of charting there :pepe-just-smile::pepe-joy:




    Edit: I forgot to mention ILLIT also have the biggest 5th gen song in Japan with Almond Chocolate. They are clearly #1, anyone who disagrees is delulu

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    So did Midas Touch and Igloo, and they charted much better so :pepe-shrug:

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