Top 5 5th gen girl groups!
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Top 5 as in terms of success or in terms of music? You should define a start date and just tell us if we count groups like FiftyFifty and Secret Number even.
However, it seems predictable that the top 5 would be filled with big label/big subsidiary groups. Might be more interesting to predict which outside group will be most likely to break into it (be the IVE, I guess).
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My unpopular prediction (A guess I made with the distant future in mind.)
KiiiKiii
Anything but unpopular. Pretty much the usual reply 😅
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Top 5 as in terms of success or in terms of music? You should define a start date and just tell us if we count groups like FiftyFifty and Secret Number even.
However, it seems predictable that the top 5 would be filled with big label/big subsidiary groups. Might be more interesting to predict which outside group will be most likely to break into it (be the IVE, I guess).
True! I meant success I’ll update now! Musics way to subjective to make topic

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I almost put Alldayproject! Weird because they don’t fit into the girl or boy group category despite being a strong contender for the leading 5th gen group

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Anything but unpopular. Pretty much the usual reply 😅
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My unpopular prediction (A guess I made with the distant future in mind.)
Babymonster ( for now, it seems like yg won’t consider giving bm more public-friendly songs. )
IllitKiiiKiii
That’s literally the same list I said

I think they will be a couple dark horses though! I just know AtHeart will be big and Izna is already picking up support fast

Also SMN has Hitomi from Izone and BDC has Yihyun who trends a lot for her visual so it’s possible they can get hits too

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Oh... 😶🌫️
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Honestly, I don't think KiiiKiii is going to hold onto that spot. 2-3 of the top groups of the 5th gen hasn't debuted yet.
The current top 5 is very volatile and the top 5 is going to look very different in 2 years. I think the issue with all of these groups they haven't had back to back hits to solidify themselves as a top group.
Aespa had Next Level -> Savage
IVE had Eleven -> Love Dive -> After Like
Every NewJeans song was a hit
Idle had Tomboy -> Nxde -> Queencard .
LSF had Antifragile -> Unforgiven/EPTBW -> Perfect Night -> Easy
I'm a firm believer that a group need 2-3 consecutive hits to solidify themselves as a top group.
The issue with groups like Itzy and Stayc when talking about 4th gen they didn't have 3 consecutive hits to solidify themselves. I think a lot of the groups mentioned in the OP are struggling with that. I like Illit but they fumbled magnetic hype by following it up with Cherish. I think do the dance would've done much better for them as the follow up.
I count the new lineup Fifty Fifty as 5th gen tbh. I think presentation and members are vastly different than the original Fifty Fifty. I think they have potential to have long careers, but I don't see them being a top group. I don't think they can do enough to make international fans outside of Asia like them. However, I think their reception is improving. However, I don't think we've had a situation where a group was considered a top group while having weak international fandom. I learned not to underestimate Channelle because it's not talked about enough how she made a song that wasn't in the top 100 reach a new peak at #33
Anyway, I can go on about this, but until these groups have 2-3 consecutive hits, then their places aren't solidified in the top 5. The top 5 in 2027 will look much different than what's in the op imo
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Subjective topics are the best ones!
I guess it should just be a bunch of big company groups like every generation. I'll add some salt to my rock soup and say
Undebuted HYBE GG
Redebuting NewJeans
Well you’ll be surprised! You could argue Ive and Njz and Lsfm weren’t predicted to be top groups!
Ive isn’t from a big4 ( i know SSE is still consider a big company etc) and they became a top group!
And Lsfm and Njz were the first official hype gg for sometime and no one knew how they would do and both became successful but it could have gone either way

I would say the same but opposite for Nmixx who many considered would be a leading group being from JYP and very talented! Anything is possible

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Well you’ll be surprised! You could argue Ive and Njz and Lsfm weren’t predicted to be top groups!
Ive isn’t from a big4 ( i know SSE is still consider a big company etc) and they became a top group!
And Lsfm and Njz were the first official hype gg for sometime and no one knew how they would do and both became successful but it could have gone either way

I would say the same but opposite for Nmixx who many considered would be a leading group being from JYP and very talented! Anything is possible

I don't pay attention to metrics too often, but I don't see any of these other groups on track to overcome an SM GG or HYBE slop.
IVE was boosted with Wonyoung. The only real surprise was idle tbh.
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nah, KIOF is 5th. I personally wouldn't include KiiiKii in the current top 5. KIOF ranking is a bit skewed because on the international side they're top 3 but in Korea they're most likely 5th. Their only hit song in Korea was sticky but individually they seemed to standout more than other 5th gen groups.
I think Meovv and H2H are about even, and it depends on what you value more. The clear top 2 is Illit and Babymonster imo.
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nah, KIOF is 5th. I personally wouldn't include KiiiKii in the current top 5. KIOF ranking is a bit skewed because on the international side they're top 3 but in Korea they're most likely 5th. Their only hit song in Korea was sticky but individually they seemed to standout more than other 5th gen groups.
I think Meovv and H2H are about even, and it depends on what you value more. The clear top 2 is Illit and Babymonster imo.
Interesting that you say KIOF is 5th domestically because I personally don't think Hands Up or The Chase have come close to Sticky + Igloo + Midas Touch..although I'm not even sure how big of hits those were.
I do agree about the Top2, though.
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Omg I forgot about KIOF
agreed they should be on the list! Completely forget them!My list wasn’t based off ranking as 5th gen metrics are all over the place currently! Just overall success/popularity for now

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Based on their track record and performance overall in the chart and sales
Their sales represent only half of what BM is able to do but they are still the #2 best selling gg in 5th gen but they lost 200k between their last last cb and cherish
Their last song show some improvements from Cherish digital performance
But we are still very far from what they did with Magnetic
For the moment Magnetic is able to help them secure their #2 spot but they'll not be able to keep this spot if they can't improve their sales and digital
Their debut album sold as well than Illit 3rd EP
So Illit have so risk to lose their spot if they don't improve, the gap is just 40k salesDigitally this year from 5th gen gg they are the only GG who was able to have 2 songs reach 5M cumulative UL this year ( and only gg to do it with ive and aespa)
Their debut song release 6 months ago is still charting on melon
And their song release 2 month ago is still climbing the chart
Outside of BM and Illit they are the only other 5th gen gg who have great digital & great sales
4. Meovv or Kiiikiii depending on what's count for people
I hesitated to put them alone as 4th or put them equal with Kiiikiii cuz both of them are very similar
They have similar sales, they are both around 200k which is just half of the number of sales that the top 3 is able to achieve
The problem is that Kiiikiii was able to do this only with their debut EP
MEOVV was able to do this 1 year after their debut and after releasing 3 singles prior to the EP release
So in term of sales i would give it to kiiikiii cuz doing similar number of sales than a gg who debuted 1 year ago is pretty impressive and show potential for a big fanbase
In term of digital
They are also pretty equal
They both have 1 song who did decently well in the chart, Kiiikiii with I do me and Meovv with Hands up
But all their other song flopped and never enter the chart or enter and were out after just a week
But this time i'll give the point to Meovv
Cuz Kiiikiii did it with their debut song so it might have just been the consequences of the debut hype cuz all their song release after this flopped
While meovv had 3 singles who flopped in chart but hands up did well so it's a proof that the public is starting to take interest in them
Also i would maybe give a little edge to meovv cuz it seems that their members seems to get more attention than kiiikiii in general
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I forgot about igloo. If we're looking at charts then it goes:
Sticky (Peak position: 3)
Hands Up (Peak position: 12)
I do me - Kiii Kiii (Peak position: 13)
Style (Peak position: 17)
The chase (Peak Position: 21)
Igloo (Peak position: 26)
Meow (Peak Position: 30)
I would've agreed that KIOF is #3, but Lips, Hips, Kiss peaked at 88. I am unsure if they have the same hold as they had in 2024. I do say we have to respect they were able to have a successful world tour and songs that stood out. However, controversy aside because I don't think it affected them outside of North America, Latin America, and parts of Europe, but it feels they're on the decline. It's why I have Illit and Meovv ahead of them.
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I forgot about igloo. If we're looking at charts then it goes:
Hands Up (Peak position: 12)
I do me - Kiii Kiii (Peak position: 13)
Style (Peak position: 17)
The chase (Peak Position: 21)
Igloo (Peak position: 26)
Meow (Peak Position: 30)
I would've agreed that KIOF is #3, but Lips, Hips, Kiss peaked at 88. I am unsure if they have the same hold as they had in 2024. I do say we have to respect they were able to have a successful world tour and songs that stood out. However, controversy aside because I don't think it affected them outside of North America, Latin America, and parts of Europe, but it feels they're on the decline. It's why I have Illit and Meovv ahead of them.
Interesting
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4. Meovv or Kiiikiii depending on what's count for people
I hesitated to put them alone as 4th or put them equal with Kiiikiii cuz both of them are very similar
They have similar sales, they are both around 200k which is just half of the number of sales that the top 3 is able to achieve
The problem is that Kiiikiii was able to do this only with their debut EP
MEOVV was able to do this 1 year after their debut and after releasing 3 singles prior to the EP release
So in term of sales i would give it to kiiikiii cuz doing similar number of sales than a gg who debuted 1 year ago is pretty impressive and show potential for a big fanbase
In term of digital
They are also pretty equal
They both have 1 song who did decently well in the chart, Kiiikiii with I do me and Meovv with Hands up
But all their other song flopped and never enter the chart or enter and were out after just a week
But this time i'll give the point to Meovv
Cuz Kiiikiii did it with their debut song so it might have just been the consequences of the debut hype cuz all their song release after this flopped
While meovv had 3 singles who flopped in chart but hands up did well so it's a proof that the public is starting to take interest in them
Also i would maybe give a little edge to meovv cuz it seems that their members seems to get more attention than kiiikiii in general
I agree with what you said in the comparison between Meovv and Kiiikiii, and I would go further by saying that I think Meovv has the potential to even surpass BM in the future. As you mentioned, Meovv’s visibility and recognition are steadily increasing. Alongside ‘Hands Up,’ ‘Drop Top’ has also climbed the charts.
Meovv’s debut and early songs might not have made much noise, but I think this was due to their lower visibility at the time. After ‘Hands Up,’ the members’ recognition significantly grew, and their popularity is steadily rising. Moreover, if Meovv continues to release public-friendly and catchy songs in the future (which is very likely), they are likely to maintain this increasing popularity. For Kiiikiii, however, unlike Meovv, there is a trend of declining visibility.
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Anyway, the REAL top 5 5th gen GGs list. I am being totally objective here smth many of y'all are incapable of.
Biggest hit. Magnetic alone has more streams than most 5th gen GGs. Great album sales. Hot 100 entry. Need I say more?
Biggest fandom by far. Every song they put out does well on Spotify. Minor hits in SK with Sheesh and Drip. AND, they have the biggest 5th gen tour.
1 solid hit with Sticky and a sold out world tour. Midas Touch and Igloo also did very well on Spotify. Album sales are okay. Could be better but its fine. FIRST k-pop group to perform at one of the biggest festivals in Europe.
Their 2025 results aren't that strong but its not like their competitors are putting out chart topping hits, not even close so yes, KIOF are still #3
Only giving them this spot cuz of their album sales. Idk anything else about them.
5. MEOVV
Ppl seem to be most impressed by them cuz they are doing better with each release but in reality, they have exactly ONE popular song and that's not enough to rank them higher. Album sales are good but weaker than H2H. The Chase also had more streams than Hands Up last time I checked
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Of course it would have more streams becasue the song was popular in 2024 and these groups just debuted. Kiss of Life is on the decline because Lips, Hips, Kiss should've performed much better. If they're ahead of the other groups by a big margin then why does that song have much less streams than the songs mentioned?
Nothing wrong with being in the top 5, but they had a shaky 2025 and I believe both Meovv and H2H have more momentum than KIOF. I believe KIOF will bounce back but at the moment they're behind H2H and Meovv.
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I am ready for a 6th Generation list
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My prediction/opinion

In no order but I believe this will be the top 5 for now but subject to change at any moment as there’s no fixed spot for now!
Baby Monster
Groups who could take a spot soon
KiiiKiii
AtHeart
Say My Name
Baby Don‘t Cry
Fifty Fifty (if they count
)You've listed some of my favorites.

I'd be happy if at least half of them soared into stardom.
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You've listed some of my favorites.

I'd be happy if at least half of them soared into stardom.
great taste

I am ready for a 6th Generation list
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Of course it would have more streams becasue the song was popular in 2024 and these groups just debuted. Kiss of Life is on the decline because Lips, Hips, Kiss should've performed much better. If they're ahead of the other groups by a big margin then why does that song have much less streams than the songs mentioned?
Nothing wrong with being in the top 5, but they had a shaky 2025 and I believe both Meovv and H2H have more momentum than KIOF. I believe KIOF will bounce back but at the moment they're behind H2H and Meovv.
Wdym KIOF are on the decline lol.

Not every song will be a hit. Did anyone say ILLIT was on decline cuz Cherish didn't do as well as Magnetic? Obviously no.
Meovv's Drop Top completely flopped, never entered Melon top 100 unlike LHK. Why don't you take that into consideration? You expect LHK to smash on the charts when KIOF was coming off a controversy, arguably the biggest in Kpop this year but ignore Meovv's title track being absent from ALL charts.
Don't cherry-pick songs here lmao. Success-wise, both Meovv and H2H are not at KIOF's level yet. That doesn't mean it will stay this way. But currently they are not.
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I agree with what you said in the comparison between Meovv and Kiiikiii, and I would go further by saying that I think Meovv has the potential to even surpass BM in the future. As you mentioned, Meovv’s visibility and recognition are steadily increasing. Alongside ‘Hands Up,’ ‘Drop Top’ has also climbed the charts.
Meovv’s debut and early songs might not have made much noise, but I think this was due to their lower visibility at the time. After ‘Hands Up,’ the members’ recognition significantly grew, and their popularity is steadily rising. Moreover, if Meovv continues to release public-friendly and catchy songs in the future (which is very likely), they are likely to maintain this increasing popularity. For Kiiikiii, however, unlike Meovv, there is a trend of declining visibility.
Don't remember drop top doing well in the chart
I think he enter the chart but it was in the bottom of the chart and didn't stay there for long
I think the problem of kiiikiii debut was that their debut promo was too heavily focus on the mediaplay with Starship trying to push this narrative that they are the " new newjeans" and pushing for the battle of 5th gen gg in chart with h2h
And now that they came back and kinda give up on the mediaplay their digital performance are going nowhere
Members like Jiyul that got a lot of buzz at debut seems to have lost all their attention
And starship doesn't seem to push Daum who's the member that korea keep hyping up
Also we need to remember that the reason Meovv members seems more "popular" is because they are under Blacklabel, yg and teddy have always have a tendencies to love push their group members in solo promotions very early compare to starship
Lmaoo i think you need to go out more often
Cuz everybody was saying that Magnetic was just luck for Illit
That they were on the decline
That Illit couldn't never recover from hybe drama and cherish was the proof of it
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Imagine saying " i'm the most objective here"
While putting BabyMonster in #2
When they are the only 5th gen GG to sell 1M for an EP
Only 5th gen gg to have 2 songs able to enter melon top 15
Only one who's able to do a world tour
And the one who's the most stable with their numbers internationally
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Imagine saying " i'm the most objective here"
While putting BabyMonster in #2
When they are the only 5th gen GG to sell 1M for an EP
Only 5th gen gg to have 2 songs able to enter melon top 15
Only one who's able to do a world tour
And the one who's the most stable with their numbers internationally
Huh

Wtf are you talking about
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Not every song will be a hit. Did anyone say ILLIT was on decline cuz Cherish didn't do as well as Magnetic? Obviously no.
Meovv's Drop Top completely flopped, never entered Melon top 100 unlike LHK. Why don't you take that into consideration? You expect LHK to smash on the charts when KIOF was coming off a controversy, arguably the biggest in Kpop this year but ignore Meovv's title track being absent from ALL charts.
said many times here.
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also meow charted on melon
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The way I even ranked BM above my own faves, KIOF but sure jan I am not objective just because I chose to give ILLIT their well deserved #1 for Magnetic and their HOT100 entry.

Like does that not matter for y'all or have y'all forgotten about it since your faves have no chance of charting there


Edit: I forgot to mention ILLIT also have the biggest 5th gen song in Japan with Almond Chocolate. They are clearly #1, anyone who disagrees is delulu
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said many times here.
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also meow charted on melon
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