NewJeans and original Fiftyfifty are probably the biggest "what if" ever in kpop

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    It always seemed to me that one of the biggest reasons for BP and BTS becoming so huge was that the American pop scene was relatively weak at the time. The male side is still weak, but the female side has boomed in recent years, making it much more difficult foreign female acts to breakthrough.

    I think this is the reason why there's a declining interest in kpop. Many people gravitated towards kpop because the American pop scene was weak. We didn't really have many pop stars in the 2010s. Kpop was offering something that wasn't really there during that period which explains the boom that happened during that period. Now there's many popstars people can gravitate towards to which is cutting into kpop. I've noticed some stan accounts are now posting about the current popstars and before we rarely saw that.


    On the male side it's mainly legacy acts but there are some new acts breaking through. It's just on the female side of things it's much harder to breakthrough due to competition. So, I am unsure if Fifty Fifty for example would've been able to hold their place because Cupid for example wasn't that big of hit in Korea compared to what it was globally.

    Quote from Varenka

    It always seemed to me that one of the biggest reasons for BP and BTS becoming so huge was that the American pop scene was relatively weak at the time. The male side is still weak, but the female side has boomed in recent years, making it much more difficult foreign female acts to breakthrough.



    We’re in the social media era now, so it’s definitely easier to chart globally and gain international fans than before. And let’s be real, kpop has never really been known in the U.S. for their music, so I don’t think it was ever that affected by the state of the American pop scene. Well, unless we have new pop bg or gg as popular as 1D there.


    Now, about Nj, they achieved in just one year what Hybe and the whole kpop industry had been trying to do with all their groups (outside of Bts and Bp) for years. So, who knows what's their real potential. Even now, it feels like no one in that industry fully understand what exactly made Nj that successful. So yeah, that’s why they’re still my biggest “what if.”

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    We’re in the social media era now, so it’s definitely easier to chart globally and gain international fans than before. And let’s be real, kpop has never really been known in the U.S. for their music, so I don’t think it was ever that affected by the state of the American pop scene. Well, unless we have new pop bg or gg as popular as 1D there.

    It was certainly their music that had them gain fans. Even if people stick around for the visuals, they're almost always captured by their music.

    If the senior singer didn't win a lifetime achievement at age 21


    If BTS didn't enlist


    If Rose never showed Bruno APT

    Quote from Jasque-O-Part2

    If the senior singer didn't win a lifetime achievement at age 21


    If BTS didn't enlist


    If Rose never showed Bruno APT

    More important is if IU did not defeat SNSD in 2012, which was the decisive moment for SM.


    I will talk about wi BTS did not enlist later


    BlackPink's greatest moment would have been 2021 but YG did nothing, putting Jisoo in a very depressing drama instead. Roseanne Park's collabo with Bruno Mars was less important

    The SNSD, EXO and Tzuyu ones are SOOOO valid

    Quote from applepie343434

    See, that's why they're one of the biggest 'what ifs' because we were never able to know the answer for that question

    but that's literally every group then...

    every group kpop or otherwise has the opportunity hit it big

    every group has the opportunity to flop after they hit it big


    groups that were once on top of the world like twice and itzy have let's say charted less well in SK

    groups like Gidle who used to chart less well suddenly charted fantastically and now less well

    groups like Illit hit it out of the park and people have called them one hit wonders...


    I would say there are probably one handful of SK artists that one would almost bet their entire life savings on to chart well solely by their name and their name alone


    IU

    GD

    Big Bang

    BTS

    BP


    (there may be more soloists and less idol centric artists that I'm not familar with)

    GD sings his last tune now and IU has been subdued.


    BTS and BP remain to be seen but given the structure of Melon even they would have a hard time against Korea's gaggle of adult contemporary songs, supported by Korean men of 30-45 age cohort who have been the most toxic population against KPop.

    Quote from applepie343434

    We’re in the social media era now, so it’s definitely easier to chart globally and gain international fans than before. And let’s be real, kpop has never really been known in the U.S. for their music, so I don’t think it was ever that affected by the state of the American pop scene. Well, unless we have new pop bg or gg as popular as 1D there.


    Now, about Nj, they achieved in just one year what Hybe and the whole kpop industry had been trying to do with all their groups (outside of Bts and Bp) for years. So, who knows what's their real potential. Even now, it feels like no one in that industry fully understand what exactly made Nj that successful. So yeah, that’s why they’re still my biggest “what if.”

    Why do you all act like newjeans wasn't the main act of Hybe for 2 years? They literally invested billions in them and they knew what they were doing when they established a new label for them and hired Creative director from SM. They tried next BTS and failed. So they prepared fore years to debut a successful GG and succeeded in doing so. You all want that rags to riches story so bad.

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    GD sings his last tune now and IU has been subdued.


    BTS and BP remain to be seen but given the structure of Melon even they would have a hard time against Korea's gaggle of adult contemporary songs, supported by Korean men of 30-45 age cohort who have been the most toxic population against KPop.

    I guess when we see the return of BTS and BP we'll see whether they can continue to carry their weight on melon or otherwise

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