Is Aespa going to reclaim #1 spot?

I was going to make this thread. You're not even original

Of course, I would've framed it differently.

NewJeans is going NOWHERE

Yeah, AESPA is on a run of their LIVES.

Amongst the top 5 GGs for 4th gen, I had them at about 4 or 5. But with this crazy boost they got from Supernova and being called out by HYBE several times, looks like they are about re-touch their peak era.

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NewJeans is going NOWHERE

NOWHERE being long vacation while hybe assigns them some clueless failed ceo and finds them a grammy nominated producer in 1.5 years (if hybe wins)

HYBE shot themselves in the foot! All their drama started because they debut that new group mimicking a concept to a group that already belongs to them pure stupidity and greed

Anyways I don’t think they’ll ever be a top 1 group going forward. Positions fluctuate, everyone’s leading in 1 or 2 things but never all. Right now there’s top 5 in 4th gen and 5th gen girl groups are just making their mark

im just happy for once a group i can get behind is not getting nugu like results.

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HYBE shot themselves in the foot! All their drama started because they debut that new group mimicking a concept to a group that already belongs to them pure stupidity and greed

Anyways I don’t think they’ll ever be a top 1 group going forward. Positions fluctuate, everyone’s leading in 1 or 2 things but never all. Right now there’s top 5 in 4th gen and 5th gen girl groups are just making their mark

Why does this get posted so often? I refute here. On Reddit. On discord.

NewJeans are way ahead of their peers. The gap between them and the pack is massive.

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Why does this get posted so often? I refute here. On Reddit. On discord.

NewJeans are way ahead of their peers. The gap between them and the pack is massive.

It's simple, it's recency bias.

People don't care about the past. They only care about what's happening in the present. Especially if you only casually follow groups.

All New Jeans has to do is take over Supernova globally and in Korea when they come back and the conversation will be totally different.

NewJeans as long as they are under Hybe will not let go of that top position. We will see their power with tomorrow release.

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The first sentence carries double meaning, not sure if intended or not

Lol, nope.

The only meaning I had was that they are having another unexpected massive hit. I thought their peak was Next Level, and Supernova has shown their longevity. Even amongst the upcoming 5th gen.

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Why does this get posted so often? I refute here. On Reddit. On discord.

NewJeans are way ahead of their peers. The gap between them and the pack is massive.

As far as I’m aware New jeans hasn’t surpassed Fifty Fifty’s stream peak on Spotify global, nor have they surpassed aespa’s 1st days sales that came out more than a year ago and the new HYBE gg has a higher 1st week debut album (which didn’t take too long to break)

To be number 1 means you have to break all the records now it’s debatable who leads domestic charting as IVE, Gidle and aespa are all charting consistently.

And now with all the fraud coming out from HYBE are HYBE gg trustworthy anymore?

I think New Jeans next comeback will decide if they’re truly number 1 or if that gap has closed already

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As far as I’m aware New jeans hasn’t surpassed Fifty Fifty’s stream peak on Spotify global, nor have they surpassed aespa’s 1st days sales that came out more than a year ago and the new HYBE gg has a higher 1st week debut album (which didn’t take too long to break)

To be number 1 means you have to break all the records now it’s debatable who leads domestic charting as IVE, Gidle and aespa are all charting consistently.

And now with all the fraud coming out from HYBE are HYBE gg trustworthy anymore?

I think New Jeans next comeback will decide if they’re truly number 1 or if that gap has closed already

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Cute.

Korean national survey 2023 Gallup - Singer of the Year: (survey taken in age group 13-39)

#1 NewJeans - 25.7%

#3 IVE - 17%

#9 aespa - 5.5%

Korean national survey 2023 Gallup - Song of the Year: (survey taken in age group 13-39)

#1 NewJeans - Super Shy - 6.8%

#4 IVE - I AM - 6%

#5 NewJeans - Hype Boy - 5.3%

#6 NewJeans - ETA - 5.2%

#8 IVE - Love Dive - 3.5%

Number of days ranked #1 on MelOn Daily in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans - 138 days (Ditto 86 days + Super Shy 52 days)
2. IVE - 70 days (I AM 35 days + Kitsch 19 days + Baddie 16 days)
3. Le Sserafim - 33 days (Perfect Night)
4. aespa - 6 days (Spicy)

Ranking on MelOn Yearly 2023:

#1 NewJeans - Ditto

#2 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#3 IVE - I AM

#4 NewJeans - OMG

#6 IVE - Kitsch

#8 NewJeans - Attention

#10 IVE - After LIKE

#12 aespa - Spicy

#13 Le Sserafim - ANTIFRAGILE

#14 IVE - LOVE DIVE

#15 NewJeans - Super Shy

#17 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#26 Le Sserafim - Eve, Psyche & the Bluebeard’s wife

#28 NewJeans - ETA

#61 IVE - Eleven

#63 Le Sserafim - Fearless

#67 NewJeans - Cookie

#86 NewJeans - New Jeans

Album sales on Circle Chart 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 4.34 m (2 albums)
2. IVE 3.73 m (2 albums)
3. aespa 3.44 m (2 albums)
4. Le Sserafim 1.96 m (1 album)

Touring in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. aespa - 330K people
2. IVE - 150K people
3. Le Sserafim - 100K people
4. NewJeans - no tour

Peak on Billboard Hot 100 in 2023:

#48 NewJeans - Super Shy

#74 NewJeans - OMG

#81 NewJeans - ETA

#82 NewJeans - Ditto

#93 NewJeans - Cool With You

Peak on Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100:

#105 NewJeans - New Jeans

#116 NewJeans - ASAP

#119 NewJeans - GODS

#119 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night

#122 NewJeans - Get Up

Peak on Billboard 200:

#1 NewJeans - Get Up (500,000 units, chart 22 weeks, still charting)

#6 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (90,000 units, chart 8 weeks)

#9 aespa - MY WORLD (70,000 units, chart 3 weeks)

#33 aespa - DRAMA (21,000 units, chart 1 week)

Peak on Spotify Global:

#4 NewJeans - Super Shy (4,726,910)

#9 NewJeans - Ditto (3,324,434)

#11 NewJeans - OMG (3,140,808)

#21 NewJeans - Cool With You (2,817,695)

#22 NewJeans - New Jeans (2,787,907)

#25 NewJeans - ETA (2,613,406)

#26 NewJeans - ASAP (2,607,028)

#41 NewJeans - GODS (2,176,853)

#41 NewJeans - Get Up (2,172,778)

#48 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (1,974,668)

#53 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night (1,717,996)

#60 aespa - DRAMA (1,607,611)

#61 IVE - I AM (1,733,361)

#176 aespa - Spicy (1,140,308)

Peak on Spotify US:

#9 NewJeans - Super Shy (1,110,847)

#16 NewJeans - Cool With You (801,008)

#20 NewJeans - New Jeans (737,261)

#22 NewJeans - ETA (727,583)

#25 NewJeans - ASAP (689,494)

#27 NewJeans - OMG (645,289)

#29 NewJeans - Ditto (603,274)

#32 NewJeans - Get Up (631,888)

#76 NewJeans - GODS (482,325)

#106 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night (384,785)

#123 Le Sserafim - Unforgiven (340,481)

Total stream on Spotify Global in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans
2. Le Sserafim
3. IVE
4. aespa

Ranking on Apple Music Global Yearly chart in 2023:

#19 NewJeans - Ditto

#37 NewJeans - OMG

#64 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#79 Le Sserafim - Antifragile

Album sales in Japan in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (118K)
2. Ive - I AM (40K), Baddie (69K)
3. NewJean - OMG (36K), Get Up (69K)
4. aespa - MY WORLD (56K), DRAMA (26K)

Stream Oricon 2023:

#15 NewJeans - Ditto

#25 NewJeans - OMG

#41 Le Sserafim - Antifragile

#51 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#71 IVE - I AM

#84 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#95 NewJeans - Super Shy

Album ranking on Oricon Yearly:

#39 IVE - WAVE

#44 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#64 NewJeans - Get Up

#65 IVE - I've Mine

#73 aespa - MY WORLD

#91 IVE - I've IVE

Number of subcribers on Youtube in 2022-2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 1.8 m -> 6.3 m
2. aespa 4.2 m -> 5.1 m
3. Le Sserafim 1.9 m-> 4.3 m
4. IVE 2.2 m -> 3.2 m

Number of followers on Tiktok in 2022-2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 3.95 m -> 10.36 m
2. aespa 6.15 m -> 8.98 m
3. Le Sserafim 4.17 m -> 8.59 m
4. IVE 3.85 m -> 6.19 m

Monthly listeners on Spotify Global: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans (Peak: 26.78 m - December: 21.82 m)
2. Le Sserafim (Peak: 12.82 m - December: 12.80 m)
3. aespa (Peak: 9.90 m - December: 9.90 m)
4. IVE (Peak: 11.79 m - December: 8.68 m)

Monthly listeners on Spotify US: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans (Peak: 2.18 m - December: 890k)
2. Le Sserafim (Peak: 730k - December: 490k)
3. IVE (Peak: 450k - December: 220k)
4. aespa (Peak: 750k - December: 210k)

I have more than this. Much more.

NewJeans is far, FAR ahead of their peers. The gap between them and their peers is biggest we've seen in any generation.

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Cute.

Korean national survey 2023 Gallup - Singer of the Year: (survey taken in age group 13-39)

#1 NewJeans - 25.7%

#3 IVE - 17%

#9 aespa - 5.5%

Korean national survey 2023 Gallup - Song of the Year: (survey taken in age group 13-39)

#1 NewJeans - Super Shy - 6.8%

#4 IVE - I AM - 6%

#5 NewJeans - Hype Boy - 5.3%

#6 NewJeans - ETA - 5.2%

#8 IVE - Love Dive - 3.5%

Number of days ranked #1 on MelOn Daily in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans - 138 days (Ditto 86 days + Super Shy 52 days)
2. IVE - 70 days (I AM 35 days + Kitsch 19 days + Baddie 16 days)
3. Le Sserafim - 33 days (Perfect Night)
4. aespa - 6 days (Spicy)

Ranking on MelOn Yearly 2023:

#1 NewJeans - Ditto

#2 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#3 IVE - I AM

#4 NewJeans - OMG

#6 IVE - Kitsch

#8 NewJeans - Attention

#10 IVE - After LIKE

#12 aespa - Spicy

#13 Le Sserafim - ANTIFRAGILE

#14 IVE - LOVE DIVE

#15 NewJeans - Super Shy

#17 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#26 Le Sserafim - Eve, Psyche & the Bluebeard’s wife

#28 NewJeans - ETA

#61 IVE - Eleven

#63 Le Sserafim - Fearless

#67 NewJeans - Cookie

#86 NewJeans - New Jeans

Album sales on Circle Chart 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 4.34 m (2 albums)
2. IVE 3.73 m (2 albums)
3. aespa 3.44 m (2 albums)
4. Le Sserafim 1.96 m (1 album)

Touring in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. aespa - 330K people
2. IVE - 150K people
3. Le Sserafim - 100K people
4. NewJeans - no tour

Peak on Billboard Hot 100 in 2023:

#48 NewJeans - Super Shy

#74 NewJeans - OMG

#81 NewJeans - ETA

#82 NewJeans - Ditto

#93 NewJeans - Cool With You

Peak on Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100:

#105 NewJeans - New Jeans

#116 NewJeans - ASAP

#119 NewJeans - GODS

#119 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night

#122 NewJeans - Get Up

Peak on Billboard 200:

#1 NewJeans - Get Up (500,000 units, chart 22 weeks, still charting)

#6 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (90,000 units, chart 8 weeks)

#9 aespa - MY WORLD (70,000 units, chart 3 weeks)

#33 aespa - DRAMA (21,000 units, chart 1 week)

Peak on Spotify Global:

#4 NewJeans - Super Shy (4,726,910)

#9 NewJeans - Ditto (3,324,434)

#11 NewJeans - OMG (3,140,808)

#21 NewJeans - Cool With You (2,817,695)

#22 NewJeans - New Jeans (2,787,907)

#25 NewJeans - ETA (2,613,406)

#26 NewJeans - ASAP (2,607,028)

#41 NewJeans - GODS (2,176,853)

#41 NewJeans - Get Up (2,172,778)

#48 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (1,974,668)

#53 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night (1,717,996)

#60 aespa - DRAMA (1,607,611)

#61 IVE - I AM (1,733,361)

#176 aespa - Spicy (1,140,308)

Peak on Spotify US:

#9 NewJeans - Super Shy (1,110,847)

#16 NewJeans - Cool With You (801,008)

#20 NewJeans - New Jeans (737,261)

#22 NewJeans - ETA (727,583)

#25 NewJeans - ASAP (689,494)

#27 NewJeans - OMG (645,289)

#29 NewJeans - Ditto (603,274)

#32 NewJeans - Get Up (631,888)

#76 NewJeans - GODS (482,325)

#106 Le Sserafim - Perfect Night (384,785)

#123 Le Sserafim - Unforgiven (340,481)

Total stream on Spotify Global in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans
2. Le Sserafim
3. IVE
4. aespa

Ranking on Apple Music Global Yearly chart in 2023:

#19 NewJeans - Ditto

#37 NewJeans - OMG

#64 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#79 Le Sserafim - Antifragile

Album sales in Japan in 2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN (118K)
2. Ive - I AM (40K), Baddie (69K)
3. NewJean - OMG (36K), Get Up (69K)
4. aespa - MY WORLD (56K), DRAMA (26K)

Stream Oricon 2023:

#15 NewJeans - Ditto

#25 NewJeans - OMG

#41 Le Sserafim - Antifragile

#51 NewJeans - Hype Boy

#71 IVE - I AM

#84 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#95 NewJeans - Super Shy

Album ranking on Oricon Yearly:

#39 IVE - WAVE

#44 Le Sserafim - UNFORGIVEN

#64 NewJeans - Get Up

#65 IVE - I've Mine

#73 aespa - MY WORLD

#91 IVE - I've IVE

Number of subcribers on Youtube in 2022-2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 1.8 m -> 6.3 m
2. aespa 4.2 m -> 5.1 m
3. Le Sserafim 1.9 m-> 4.3 m
4. IVE 2.2 m -> 3.2 m

Number of followers on Tiktok in 2022-2023: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans 3.95 m -> 10.36 m
2. aespa 6.15 m -> 8.98 m
3. Le Sserafim 4.17 m -> 8.59 m
4. IVE 3.85 m -> 6.19 m

Monthly listeners on Spotify Global: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans (Peak: 26.78 m - December: 21.82 m)
2. Le Sserafim (Peak: 12.82 m - December: 12.80 m)
3. aespa (Peak: 9.90 m - December: 9.90 m)
4. IVE (Peak: 11.79 m - December: 8.68 m)

Monthly listeners on Spotify US: (compare between the 4 groups)

1. NewJeans (Peak: 2.18 m - December: 890k)
2. Le Sserafim (Peak: 730k - December: 490k)
3. IVE (Peak: 450k - December: 220k)
4. aespa (Peak: 750k - December: 210k)

I have more than this. Much more.

NewJeans is far, FAR ahead of their peers. The gap between them and their peers is biggest we've seen in any generation.

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I tired let’s see if New Jeans can keep above in 2024 because with the new HYBE gg will they get the same push? I mean the way the new HYBE gg is going they’ll be passing most of these records in the next months

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I tired let’s see if New Jeans can keep above in 2024 because with the new HYBE gg will they get the same push? I mean the way the new HYBE gg is going they’ll be passing most of these records in the next months

ILLIT have come nowhere close to passing most of NewJeans' records. They had one hit song. NewJeans' entire debut album broke and set records we may never see touched.

Hype Boy is almost 2 years old and is still a top 20 song in Korea. Do you think Magnetic will still be a top 20 song in even 1 year?

I respect your ride or die mentality for aespa, but you're really underestimating the amount of light years between NewJeans and their peers.

Let me put it this way.

NewJeans is closer to BLACKPINK than the rest of the 4th gen is close to NewJeans.

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ILLIT have come nowhere close to passing most of NewJeans' records. They had one hit song. NewJeans' entire debut album broke and set records we may never see touched.

Hype Boy is almost 2 years old and is still a top 20 song in Korea. Do you think Magnetic will still be a top 20 song in even 1 year?

I respect your ride or die mentality for aespa, but you're really underestimating the amount of light years between NewJeans and their peers.

Let me put it this way.

NewJeans is closer to BLACKPINK than the rest of the 4th gen is close to NewJeans

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Not that I’m defending that group but if New Jeans can do it why can’t they especially with the backing of HYBE the company that finically supported them

Anything is possible In kpop New jeans themselves are proof of that. Only time will tell but I have no doubt ILLIT will break most of all the records. Whether genuine or brought we will never know!

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Not that I’m defending that group but if New Jeans can do it why can’t they especially with the backing of HYBE the company that finically supported them

ILLIT didn't even comeback to say they're coming anywhere near NewJeans. We should be worried about Katseye takin over the whole US, UK and the western market overall, they the most Bang PD involved in, even Illit didn't get picture taken with Bang PD to say he cares or will be pushing them more.