TBLNGG's lineup is a brilliant double-edged sword (Update 3: Annie Moon confirmed to not debut. Ella Gross and Bailey Sok almost confirmed to debut)

  • Assuming TBLNGG's concept is elite, high-class and expensive, with a focus on members' individuality (because Teddy), the members we know the most about are genuinely perfect.


    Annie Moon (position: probably leader):

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    First, getting an actual chaebol into the group is inspired. Not only will Annie generate tons of publicity just by existing, she would be a perfect fit for the concept, granting instant credibility, and luxury brands would fall over themselves to get a top idol/chaebol endorsement. Annie would probably be great for the leader position as well since she's an adult (shocking), a graduate of Columbia University, and has been around people in top leadership positions all her life. Don't know her skills yet, but I'm sure they are at least decent if Teddy chose her and her family isn't resisting (they wouldn't want Annie to embarrass the family), and decent is great by current popular group standards.


    Bailey Sok (position: main dancer/choreographer):

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    Getting Bailey Sok into the group is insane. Evidence for her as a TBL trainee has been around for a couple years, but most didn't believe it was possible that Bailey would want to become an idol. She's just too talented, successful and famous within the professional dancer community. It goes without saying that Bailey would would immediately become one of the best dancers (and in-group choreographers) in kpop history, male or female. Bailey has also been training her vocals with one of BTS's vocal coaches over the last couple years. She has a history of getting brand deals, including Nike, and a ton of charisma, on and off stage. Also an adult.


    Ella Gross (position: maknae):

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    Despite her age, Ella has a long history in entertainment/modelling. She has been an internationally recognized model since she was a young child, with a long list of high-end brands that she has promoted. She has also acted in a number of movies/shows. She has the cute factor that would appeal to younger fans while still fitting the luxury concept due to her background (a hard needle to thread). Skill-wise, she has been training at TBL for over five years, while working and going to school, and from what I have heard she sounded good a couple of years ago, so Ella could only be better now.


    Chloe Lee (position: ?):

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    Chloe is likely a member, but little is known about her at this point, other than that she's tall and beautiful in a way that fits with luxury high fashion, and she has a history of modelling.


    That leaves main vocalist and main rapper open, but if Teddy could get Bailey as his main dancer then it is likely that he found very talented members for those positions as well.


    Also, notice that they are all fluent in English. Assuming the main vocalist and main rapper are talented, the group will have the skills, concept and communication ability to instantly go world-wide (the West generally cares if a singing group can sing, including idols).


    Ultimately, the biggest question is whether the music production will match the brilliance of the member selection. If TBL manages to produce quality songs for TBLNGG then the group's dominance is almost guaranteed. If TBL doesn't, the downside of the concept and such a powerful lineup will become clear: it's hard to maintain an elite, high-class and expensive concept when you are flopping.


    Update:

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    Ella is signed to TBL but Bailey isn't officially. For them to make the same move at about the same time can't be a coincidence. I would consider both Ella and Bailey to be almost confirmed members at this point.


    Update 2:

    Annie Moon and Bailey Sok received GLYF (Somi's highligher brand) and posted it on their insta. This is their only interaction I'm aware of, so I would consider this almost confirmation that Annie (and Bailey) will be in TBLGG.

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    Earlier evidence for Bailey and Ella:


    Update 3:

    Annie Moon's departure as a potential member of TBLNGG confirmed by TBL.

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  • Also, notice that they are all fluent in English. Assuming the main vocalist and main rapper are talented, the group will have the skills, concept and communication ability to instantly go world-wide (the West generally cares if a singing group can sing, including idols).

    Yeah if they all are well spoken in english it will be a huge plus for global popularity

  • I thought they've had more members?

    also let's wait and see how many songs they will be able to release per year

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  • Might work without the YG baggage.


    However there are a lot of egos in the room, and members who not reliant on the group's success. So you might find after a year or so, the members will mostly go off and do their own things.


    As a side note, an "influencer" group, QWER, hit #5 in Melon and they are still climbing.

  • Might work without the YG baggage.


    However there are a lot of egos in the room, and members who not reliant on the group's success. So you might find after a year or so, the members will mostly go off and do their own things.


    As a side note, an "influencer" group, QWER, hit #5 in Melon and they are still climbing.

    Does QWER have powerful backers?

  • Will they endure the rigors of being a KPop girl group? A bunch of princesses who need a squad of attendants doing tours and all that?


    They all want to play celebrity games. Their story will make good TV dramas, but will it actually work? I seriously doubt it.


    It will be like a superwealthy girl's diary of playing a girl group, Most people would rather let her stay in her own circle, away from ordinary fans.

  • Might work without the YG baggage.


    However there are a lot of egos in the room, and members who not reliant on the group's success. So you might find after a year or so, the members will mostly go off and do their own things.


    As a side note, an "influencer" group, QWER, hit #5 in Melon and they are still climbing.

    Indeed, they all want to play BlackPink a day, but after learning that being a superstar is not that easy, they will depart to do their own things.


    I don't know who is the poorest in the lot, but the poorest girl (who would still be well to do compared to ordinary mortals) there better have a personality similar to Jung Eunji, who was the poorest in APink but had a personally tolerable to the richer member, as well as some richer girls she met on showbiz.

  • I thought they've had more members?

    also let's wait and see how many songs they will be able to release per year

    I'm not saying they will have 4 members, those are just the most likely members so far based on evidence.


    It's likely they will have more based on the leaked photos, but we don't know who they are. Also, keep in mind that we don't know when they were taken and if they contain trainees that were cut.

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  • Will they endure the rigors of being a KPop girl group? A bunch of princesses who need a squad of attendants doing tours and all that?


    They all want to play celebrity games. Their story will make good TV dramas, but will it actually work? I seriously doubt it.


    It will be like a superwealthy girl's diary of playing a girl group, Most people would rather let her stay in her own circle, away from ordinary fans.

    This isn't Teddy's first group. Of course he would take into account the girls' personalities before selecting them.

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    Ella is signed to TBL but Bailey isn't officially. For them to make the same move at about the same time can't be a coincidence. I would consider both Ella and Bailey to be almost confirmed members at this point.

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  • hammerstan

    Changed the title of the thread from “TBLNGG's lineup is a brilliant double-edged sword (so far)” to “TBLNGG's lineup is a brilliant double-edged sword (Update: Ella Gross and Bailey Sok almost confirmed)”.
  • This isn't Teddy's first group. Of course he would take into account the girls' personalities before selecting them.

    Basically Teddy is playing in the show the princesses have produced, fulfilling their fantasies to play a girl group. Whether they will actually like the rigors of post debut life is another question

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    Ella is signed to TBL but Bailey isn't officially. For them to make the same move at about the same time can't be a coincidence. I would consider both Ella and Bailey to be almost confirmed members at this point.

    unless it would be that sad moment when it's actually the opposite

    but hopefully not

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  • Update 2:

    Annie Moon and Bailey Sok received GLYF (Somi's highligher brand) and posted it on their insta. This is their only interaction I'm aware of, so I would consider this almost confirmation that Annie (and Bailey) will be in TBLGG.

    MÉOVV GLOBAL (@MEOVV_GLOBAL) on X
    [📸] Rumoured MÉOVV/TBLNGG member showing off her gift from TBL JEON SOMI’s makeup brand GLYF on her Instagram story! #MEOVV #TBLNGG #THEBLACKLABEL #더블랙레이블…
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    MÉOVV CENTRIC (@MEOVV_CENTRIC) on X
    Somi gifting her glyfing highlighter to bailey and annie 2/4 well next ella since she has not update anything yet👀 #TBLNGG #THEBLACKLABEL…
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  • hammerstan

    Changed the title of the thread from “TBLNGG's lineup is a brilliant double-edged sword (Update: Ella Gross and Bailey Sok almost confirmed)” to “TBLNGG's lineup is a brilliant double-edged sword (Update 3: Annie Moon reported to not debut. Ella Gross and Bailey Sok almost confirmed)”.
  • Update 3:

    Annie Moon is reported to not debut, although there is no reported source for the info.


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