Feels wrong stanning a group as nugu as YOung Posse.

Its ok you can continue being jyp company stan only

Their album sales are going to be really low because they are nugu and the company said there will only be a small limited amount of albums produced and sold in stores. Also most idols make their money after their kpop career when they go out and do their own thing.

But Young Posse has cult classic group written all over them.

I saw bits and pieces of their newest release, i was actually impressed by how original the MV was. I will watch the whole thing now.

ETA: Just watched XXL choreo vid. Not a bad song, mixing 90s hip hop with Kpop.

Some companies shouldn't have trainees if they can't even pay their daily expenses

But in the situation we are now, every day they debut a billion groups that are like that

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Is not because the sales per se, unlike the majority here, i feel nothing when i hear how much a kpop group sell.

Is because the awful Kpop company system. They have a debt with the company, and if they stay nugu probably they will pay their debt in years and the money they finally receive is not worth it. I listen and support some small local bands because i know the money they make goes to their pockets, but with nugu kpop groups is not the same, i dont want to give my money to a damn company (Not all atleast). Feels wrong.

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Your money, your choice. But if you buy their album, you will help them pay their debt so even though the company probably gets all your money, the girls still benefit from your purchase.

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Your money, your choice. But if you buy their album, you will help them pay their debt so even though the company probably gets all your money, the girls still benefit from your purchase.

I'm buying their album. First album I've bought in 4 years.

If you love them, you should buy their album, especially if you have enough money for that.

A lot of people will see these numbers, and they will laugh, like idiots. These girls, just like KIOF are not even a 1 year old group and neither of them comes from a big company. I mean, KIOF's numbers are much better, but compared to BIG4 groups, both have low sale numbers. Let's be real, 98% of the groups can't sell more than 100K albums, because nowadays, it's not a trend. Baby Kpop fans only listen to their songs (if they will) on streaming platforms.

Compare their 2nd mini album sale numbers with Mamamoo's 2nd mini, for example! Why? Because same company, and both groups are underrated.

Piano Man

Format: 2nd Mini Album
Release Date: November 21st, 2014
1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 100 copies sold
1st Month Sales (Circle): 1,701 copies sold
Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 8,771 copies sold

Mamamoo's 1st album that has more than 100K sales!

reality in BLACK

Format: 2nd Full Album
Release Date: November 14th, 2019
1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 51,552 copies sold
1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 70,536 copies sold
1st Month Sales (Circle): 102,171 copies sold
Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 129,672 copies sold

They had to wait for FIVE YEARS to reach this!

Another RBW girl group, Purple Kiss! They debuted in 2021! Their 3rd anniversary was a week ago, btw!

INTO VIOLET

Format: 1st Mini Album
Release Date: March 15th, 2021
1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 7,156 copies sold
1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 12,405 copies sold

1st Month Sales (Circle): 18,012 copies sold
Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 29,985 copies sold

Their best-selling album so far!

HIDE & SEEK

Format: 2nd Mini Album
Release Date: September 8th, 2021
1st Day Sales (Hanteo): 8,497 copies sold
1st Week Sales (Hanteo): 37,310 copies sold

1st Month Sales (Circle): 43,924 copies sold
Total Sales in South Korea (Circle): 43,924 copies sold

So, it's safe to say that Young Posse and KIOF has a lot of time. KIOF already won the Rookie of the Year Award, so they're doing better.

credit: KOREAN SALES

After 3 weeks. My nugus doing geat!

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After 3 weeks. My nugus doing geat!

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Not try be rude to nugus but with these numbers they'll disband within 2 years

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Not try be rude to nugus but with these numbers they'll disband within 2 years

Why is it that only kpop groups won't survive low album sales but everything else has gone to digital and streaming like movies and video games and they manage to survive?

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Why is it that only kpop groups won't survive low album sales but everything else has gone to digital and streaming like movies and video games and they manage to survive?

If kpop group has so low album sales, then they won't be bringing enough money digitally to stay afloat either

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Not try be rude to nugus but with these numbers they'll disband within 2 years

I get your point but look at these numbers. Same company btw!

Mamamoo's 1st two Mini-Album sales when buying CD's was still a thing.

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Purple Kiss 1st two Mini-Album sales.

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And now Young Posse's overall sales! Don't forget, Mamamoo was a vocal group, Purple Kiss a kind of typical girl group, and Young Posse has a totally different style to what most young kids like nowadays. It's liek they came back from the 90s, early 2000s. 😅 Also, digitally, they're doing much better.

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YOUNG POSSE Sales Summary - KOREAN SALES

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If kpop group has so low album sales, then they won't be bringing enough money digitally to stay afloat either

RBW is a not a company that disbanding groups, I don't think they have ever done that. The problem is that they hardly promote their artists. Also, companies doesn't earn much from physical sales. The real money comes from concerts. And performers and talents like Young Posse can fill big venues, EVENTUALLY.

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RBW is a not a company that disbanding groups, I don't think they have ever done that. The problem is that they hardly promote their artists. Also, companies doesn't earn much from physical sales. The real money comes from concerts. And performers and talents like Young Posse can fill big venues, EVENTUALLY.

Agree. In my country nobody buys hard copies, tbh i don't if they even exist. 6 months ago our singer had 5 arena concerts in our neighboring country (same language, she's really popular there). She didn't waste money on hard copies, but she earned a lot of money doing concerts (not just those but in general).

Whenever old artists do tours you know they aren't doing well with money lol

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Agree. In my country nobody buys hard copies, tbh i don't if they even exist. 6 months ago our singer had 5 arena concerts in our neighboring country (same language, she's really popular there). She didn't waste money on hard copies, but she earned a lot of money doing concerts (not just those but in general).

Whenever old artists do tours you know they aren't doing well with money lol

Exactly. This is why Kpop is on a downhill, honestly, because newer fans only care about numbers, not talent or good songs. They can celebrate 500M sales, but if only 1000 people will see them live, does it matter? To be fair 500M sales would bring in a lot of money, but anyway.🤣

agreed. that's why I don't stan any nugu groups or buy their albums because who knows what type of stuff is going on behind closed doors. a lot of nugu groups are mistreated by their companies.

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I'm buying their album. First album I've bought in 4 years.

I’m sure you’ve bought Busters' album before