I'm talking about groups that were doing really well on charts at first but suddenly are not anymore, or groups that debuted under the Big 4.
How many chances does the public, including Kpop fans in general, give them before everyone starts doomposting about how badly they're doing and how their company didn't manage the group properly? How many bad cb until even when they have really good songs, yet it those will not chart well at all no matter how hard they tried unless the song suddenly goes viral. For example, like Itzy, Gfriend, Mamamoo.