I really really despise the sexism and double standards of SM

Because that meninist CEO's is still in SM

Your mistake is thinking this is a SM issue only

I think you guys give SM WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much credit for things

I really don't think people understand business and so things like this happen where companies are blamed. No one should be blamed i really think it is down to popularity support the girls more like you do boys. Around the world you will see for many male artists they also get more for girls it seems more competitive and LESS supportive due to competition.

I thought like you too but this is definitely not an SM problem but people problem a society problem

It is like saying SM is ageist for debuting young girls only. When we all know artists debut early for better chances. It is a FACT that boy groups perform better and bring in more long term profit. It is a FACT

SM does't even treat male groups fairly I want aespa to go on variety shows but waited years for NCT. I do believe girl groups should be given the chance as well with more backing but we also should support the girl groups that is the issue

Yeah all this sucks but unfortunately fans can't do anything about itbecause it's been going on for years without any change

SNSD were literally sabotaged (still crazy to think how a company actually did that, I've never seen that shit happen in any form of media or product)

FX was the step child they didn't want right to the end

Aespa have only 2 songs and no other promotion like TV shows

Only RV has had decent care under SM in the last 5 or so years yet even that isn't close SM bgs who get lots of CBs, tours, individual promo etc.

Often i think SM would be better if just producing bgs and save time and effort from creating ggs since they don't care

it sucks that sm doesn't treat their female artists fairly. dont hate on shinee tho. they just had the idea of having other artists react to their mv. shinee are an older group with more influence, so it makes sense that sm let them do it when they probably trust them more. it's not like a however month old group can dictate what content they put out or their managers will listen to their suggestions. the fault is with whoever is in charge of their content for not being creative or fair enough, not sm's boy groups. and it's a fair trade. shinee will react to iu, suju, superm, aespa, tvxq, etc when they come back.

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Dear this is a forum not my English paper I could care less

You COULDN'T care less, you mean?

"old ass boy groups"

Real nice.

SM has been bad to ggs since the age of dawn, and it's in no way the boys' fault.

but literally, SHINee just had their first comeback right after older members finished their mandatory military service. Aespa aren't the only one that had to react to SHINee's comeback though, other SM groups had to do it too. And Super Junior just came back after having their 15th-anniversary album postponed three times over the course of a year.

It's in no way the boys' fault that SM wants to waste away Aespa's talents.

Yeah GGs are treated bad. GGs don’t have fandoms to support them when they become older and hence SM treats them poorly. RV didn’t have a fandom at all to even begin with so they get treated even more poorly. FX is just the exception that proves that rule.

Pity kpop in general can’t handle GGs. Even with such poor treatment SNSD lasted longer than other GGs of their time. So even if SM is shit they are still better than everyone else.

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LMAO

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You're evil af

why did I even read that anyway?

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SM has constantly shown their emphasis is on their bg rather than gg, but they’re not alone in this and I’m not sure why it’s surprising? BP fans have a lot to say about their own label on this subject.

For SM and most companies, bg = $. These “old ass” groups as you call them are still selling the shit out of tours and albums, and this is a business. People are buying candles and bracelets and charms related to their male idols. As they age, these fans continue to support their favorites, as you can see here by just looking around at the Elfs, shawols and EXO-Ls. They may not want a bracelet anymore but they continue to support their faves as a consistently paying customer. I’m older so not interested in buying a bracelet, but I sure did buy Baekhyun’s concerts and digital albums even tho I can stream for free. Have you bought RV or Aespa products? (I’m not criticizing you here for how you spend your money - I’m merely making the point that dollars talk. If fans want businesses to spend more on gg, it starts by showing them with your dollars..)

The amount of members? Also money. 23 members that each have stuff equals 23 times the potential sales. I see ‘em on Twitter - there are folks buying albums for all the photo cards or subscribing to multiple Bubbles. Again, this is a cash money dolla dolla bills grab. I have no doubt in my head that SM, like other companies, has a data cruncher who knows precisely how many members to potentially generate maximum revenues.

I also think your post is completely ignoring RV’s situation. RV, despite not having an album in over a year, had the same amount of songs on the SMTOWN show as TVXQ and one less song than SuJu. NCT dominated the songs and time because they had a 1 million plus selling album at the time...which again, it’s a business, yo. Aespa had one song because Aespa had..one song. That whole concert was about laying the groundwork for future sales - hence why they named the folks in each group onscreen for the muggles (unlike the regular Beyond Live concerts which are talking to the fan base.)

Between Wendy’s recovery and Irene’s scandal, I was surprised to see them at all but I suspect SM was testing the waters about public reaction to them before prepping a comeback.

As for Aespa, they’re building the hype train here for bigger record sales down the line, just as they did/are doing with NCT Dream and WayV and SM has a time honored tradition of randomly shoehorning their newest acts in with their older acts (MV reaction is the new thing but this kind of crap has always happened.) again, also not isolated to SM, tbf, all labels pin their new acts to their established ones in crazy ways - whether performances or social media content.

(I’m not sure why NCT is such a punching bag here but you’re complaining that they lost to an NCT unit when that NCT album was one of the top selling albums of the year? But okay.)

Lol imagine for asking for Blackpink management and treatment for Red Velvet

I wouldn't ask for that even for the groups I hate