Is Stray Kids and G-idle self-produced music good or not?

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Soyeon's an incredible lyricist and composer.

People will bang on about her English, but her Korean lyrics are better then any other in the industry. Y'all aren't able to comprehend Hann or Hwaa.

Stray Kids I'm not familiar with.

Soyeon definitely writes better songs. She can make music that is both unique and suitable for the general style that people will like. Definitely Soyeon is more talented. I mean, I liked all the songs they wrote since their debut. There are no title songs that I don't like. In addition to Gidle's album songs are also very high quality. Except for Skz Maniac, God Menu, Thunderous, their music doesn't appeal to me. Since it is more rap-heavy, not all of them appeal to me. But I appreciate the work they do. It's definitely good that they're involved their music. No matter how much they are criticized, their music appeals to the global fans more.

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If It's good It's subjective. If they are successful, It means their music appeals to a lot of people. And their opinion doesn't hold less or more power than people who dislike and are allowed to, we are all on the same boat.

But they are objectively skilled. They know how to write a song within a melody they created and arrange each part to make it listenable and accepted by the Company to be sold. It's a technical part of the constrution of a song most people don't even know for where It goes, so even If you don't like, It won't hurt to admit It's an impressive skill set.

I really admire the sound design in Stray Kids songs, especially the heavy ones. The intro riff to Venom is unlike anything I'd ever heard

Most of it is great.

I sometimes don't like one of their songs, but most of the time I do

Liking the songs is subjective but atleast I find it very impressive that they are able to compose their own songs

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Liking the songs is subjective but atleast I find it very impressive that they are able to compose their own songs

yeah, it's a positive change that 2 self-composing groups also happen to be among this generation's leaders

i don't think they were mistreated, and imo most stays think the same except the ones who act like every little thing that jype does is mistreatment. the only thing i have to say is that since day 1 div1 really don't know how to handle controversies, they like to ignore things that lead to worse and worse things.

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I really admire both Soyeon and 3RACHA for their producting skills.

I also like that Soyeon is working against the prejudice that women cannot be producers/writers. I bet you so many girls decided that they wanted to produce because of her.

Yes ! Even in her own group Minnie and Yuqi have become composers for a long time now.

Minnie has actually composed 1/4 of (G)I-dle's discography and Yuqi almost as much too (the rest is composed by soyeon except their very first mini album where the bsides are not composed by any member).

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What isn't controversial on twitter?

Well... I like a lot of Stray Kids' songs.

I do like Hwaa and HANN by (G)I-DLE.

Gidle yes, it appeals to the fandom and gp

Stray kidz it's not good for me but if their fandom like that kind of music then good for them i guess

Wtf is that first clip even...

(G)-IDLE makes good music & i love how Soyeon is a producer cause you don't really see many female idols produce (or at least I don't) and love how she goes against that & produces and how the other members also produce music. I'm not really a fan but I will say they produces some good music. i really love Hwaa & Tomboy

on behalf os Stray Kids , I just really love their music and how they compose it. some might say it's noise music or "construction music" and it's not. it's just music with a different sound & unique cause honestly some of their songs are unique and just have a different or uncommon sound (i.e. the intro for Venom & Domino ; I really like how you can hear domino? or like you hear like dominoes falling in domino, point is u can hear the name) and their music is just amazing. really love the work of 3RACHA and the rest of Skz that also produces music.

now on who makes better (??) self-pRoduced songs, im going with Stray Kids .

Their songs really have a soul and a musical signature while being diverse. They are talented for me even if Stray Kids music is not always my cup of tea. I generally love (G)-Idle music.