Oh no... they didn't even sell 1000 copies of album in 3 days :(

WE have to get them out of NUGUDOM somehow, if that means sending another group to nugudom in place of them so be it, kep1er!!! it's TIME to become NUGU so my QUEENS ELRIS can SHINE.

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WE have to get them out of NUGUDOM somehow, if that means sending another group to nugudom in place of them so be it, kep1er!!! it's TIME to become NUGU so my QUEENS ELRIS can SHINE.

Kep1er only had a few months left in their lifespan, so the sacrifice would still incomplete.

How about sending old gen ggs?

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1400 views and 10 comments for the video

The non-fancam version of the video is doing better, at 6K views, which is actually more than achieved by all other artists performing that day except for Lee Gi Kwang and Tempest.

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don't blame sohee for that. she's the member that's gone viral so she's the one being pushed, it doesn't mean she's narcissistic

Indeed. I just checked the individual fancam views for the performance, and Sohee has a huge advantage:

Sohee - 7206 views

Yukyung - 2194 views

Karin - 1652 views

Chaejeong - 893 views

EJ - 738 views

Market oversaturation. It's incredibly hard right now to escape nugudom. You need to stand out somehow.

So many strong debuts in 2022 that took most of the available spotlight (there is a limited amount, kind of). Even some established groups are declining hard in sales and views right now so it'll be far harder for nugu groups. Really the only hope is to have some viral moment and gain the attention of larger audiences that way.

It's not impossible to make it though, Fifty Fifty and XG being some recent examples of groups achieving big success.

XG especially is some real against all odds stuff. How does a Japanese group promoting in Korea succeed, they get so many negative comments. Us I-roaches also tend to think negatively of K-Pop groups (yes, I consider them a K-Pop group) English releases and even more so of a group that only has English songs. Yet they are killing it.. SOTY-level songs like Shooting Star sure helps.

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the song is ok but not good enough
the MV is only interesting because of Sohee screentime
the rest of the members is filler addition
their stage presence as a group is lack of charisma

Sohee alone can't carry the whole group

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same thing can be said about many groups....many popular groups, while those are thriving

sometimes the company conections work on their behalf, why then a group of rookies you never heard before can have a huge amount of presales without their music being out of whatever

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I'd say that it's kinda hard if they didn't stand out in the waves of 4th gen ggs...

Do keep in mind that Alice is a Third Generation group, having debuted in 2017.

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Do keep in mind that Alice is a Third Generation group, having debuted in 2017.

and yeah, the 4th gen waves are strong. They need something more to stay afloat...

It's the difference between being in a Company that has Business Contacts with the Korean Media and being in one that is out of the loop.

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don't blame sohee for that. she's the member that's gone viral so she's the one being pushed, it doesn't mean she's narcissistic

Based on behind the scenes, Vlogs and promo videos. My opinion and I don't want to take away any magic away from the group.

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My opinion Sohee is very a narcissistic and their company puts her ahead of the group. This comeback has two group idols sitting it out, my guess its Sohee emphasis again.

As an Elris Fan, this MV is hard to watch. Only slightly bearable is showcasing Yukyung more.

Their company is desperate so they're trying to push Sohee for her visual, particularly her physique. This would obviously catch the attention of male fans but not enough for them to stan. I guess she just doesn't have that x-factor

My Favourite member (Hyeseong) wasn't a part of the comeback, so I was only mildly interested

Yes Sohee is popular. How groups have a super idol among them is not unique to Alice.

Do-A aka Bella is popular among Elris Fans. Yeonje aka Hyeseong is most physically attractive and a team player.

Thats really bad for a third gen group.

Poor girls - imagine working this hard and then your company can’t make it happen.

With Fifty fifty it must be the song.