Only Kpop fans are to blame for Minor in Kpop not agency....

Yeah I think you're right. Supply equals demand. And all these companies care about is profit really...

Kpop fan share in the blame, the agencies are still to blame as well. Just because something is popular doesn't mean you are no longer responsible for the reprecussions if you decide to do it.

It is really strange to me that there have been underage idols for so long but people draw the line now that NewJeans has underage members.

In any case, yes. It is the kpop mentality, more prominent in gg stans, that want fresh faces all the time. Moreover, ggs tend to have a shorter 'career life' because fans tend to move on when they get older. It is sad but this has been the reality for quite some time.

At the same time, I don't think it is just the company's or the fans' fault. Those kids are there because their parents permitted them to be there. They debuted after their parents gave their permission. And with kpop being a thing for so long, everyone involved knows the harsh realities of idol life. But those kids chose to be there and their parents let them be there. No one was forced.

Another thing to consider is the fact that despite idols debuting after 18, they spent at least a year or two of hard training so they lost their teenage years. So, it is wrong any way you look at it.

companies are still to blame majorly

There are ways for minors to debut and promote in safe manners, but companies push them to work more than what full time adult jobs require per week.

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It is really strange to me that there have been underage idols for so long but people draw the line now that NewJeans has underage members.

This isnt new

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This isnt new

I have been on kpop forums for so long. Never before have I seen so many comments about underage idol like the ones we have had the past few days.

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kpop agency are company

company doesn't release a product unless there's some demand because they want some profit

they would never release a product if there was no demand because it would be a big loss for them

so if there was no demand from kpop fans for minor in kpop or wouldn't show interest in minor in kpop groups

trust me no kpop agency would debut a minor, because they would loss to much money on training someone, paying for their makeup outfit, etc... if kpop fans practically boycott these idols because they don't want minor in kpop

so yeah most of the blame go to kpop fans for showing to kpop agency that they don't care if the idol theyr debut are underage or not

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There are people at those companies that have the ability to make these decisions. And you should read again, we are not talking about about most of the blame, the TC is talking about the agencies being absolutely blameless in the matter all together. Even though these underage idols get revealed to the public AFTER being signed by the agencies. Surely when SM signed a contract with BoA at 13 in 2000, they were the ones that threw the first stone here.

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I have been on kpop forums for so long. Never before have I seen so many comments about underage idol like the ones we have had the past few days.

Me too and its always been a huge discussion.

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Me too and its always been a huge discussion.

I still disagree. Maybe there have been comments but not to such an extent.

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I still disagree. Maybe there have been comments but not to such an extent.

I disagree as well. I have seen these discussion going around constantly and yes to quite a big extend.

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I disagree as well. I have seen these discussion going around constantly and yes to quite a big extend.

There's nothing to come out of this discussion then.

We both think differently and it will continue to be so.

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I have been on kpop forums for so long. Never before have I seen so many comments about underage idol like the ones we have had the past few days.

I mean

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/01/p-nations-youngest-loud-trainee-to-sit-out-the-official-debut

P Nation got so much criticism they actually changed plans, at least the comments were quite substantial in that instance as well?

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There's nothing to come out of this discussion then.

We both think differently and it will continue to be so.

More like we've both seen very different things. Let's agree to disagree then.

it's the parents and these companies fault