I like both but gotta dock otr a few points for reasons I won’t get into here. Now holy moly would’ve been a more worthy opponent in this battle imo
Lmao @ 1st gen ponytails. She reminds me of nj’s haerin also having that hairstyle for omg era, which means you’ve got a point 😅
Btw those are called pigtails. Ponytail usually means gathering all your hair up to tie into a single long bundle, not more. Like a horse’s tail basically. Don’t ask me why they’re called pigtails when there are multiple tho 😅
Math should be singular. I’m sure you are stronger at maths though than English grammar.
is this supposed to be satire? Are you trying to say english spoken by british people are not legit, unlike american english? 
it’s honestly concerning how terrible you are at keeping up with an argument lol you’re the one who failed to bring up digitals to discuss impact first, but i’m the one backtracking now when i pointed out precisely that error in your argument, and then you had to scramble up digital sales to prove my point about physical sales not having enough “impact”? 😂 sure sure, whatever helps preserve your ego 👍
Why do you people have to argue everything? My initial response was to say that FML and super did well i didnt specify digitals or physicals. I specified its impact in general terms. Yes, many music shows have various criteria and a lot are digitals that's why atiny struggles to get ateez wins cause we suck at streaming.
Literally quoted in your words from your first post to prove seventeen’s impact
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Yeah you might wanna read your own posts next time before questioning why people say what they do to you lol.
I don’t give a shit about your beef with ggs’ stans, and I certainly don’t care about seventeen to argue with you about their success, you can believe they’re the one top artist in the world rn and proceed to prove that for all i care, my point was about sth else entirely. Stop diverting the point of the argument into sth completely related when you fail to counterargue the initial point
i’m not sure you understand what you’re saying bc winning music shows isn’t the metric to measure impact or digital success like you think it is lol. There are a bunch of different music shows with different criteria to win, and physical sales and fan-votes can help plenty when you have a huge fandom. Not to mention a lot of it comes down to luck/timing too. If the competition is weak even a non-hit song can win. There are countless examples of songs in the past that won many music shows but were in no way as big as songs that won fewer, or even none at all. Aepsa’s next level never won a single music show lol
I’m not here to claim seventeen aren’t successful or that super didn’t do well, bc it did, i was just addressing your own retort to that user when you said seventeen’s impact is their sales. You didn’t say anything about digital success until my post lol, and even then, your reply to me doesn’t have anything to do with the point you made yourself in your own earlier posts
I dont know what point youre referring to i was proving the impact seventeen had since they said what has seventeen done.
um so their impact is inciting more kpop stans to bulk buy even more albums? Bc that’s basically what you’re saying, proving exactly the initial poster’s point You don’t think the recent inflation of kpop sales all comes from new fans and not from a subset of them each purchasing thousands upon thousands of copies just to drive up the numbers, do you? Of course this is a problem with all top groups, not just seventeen, but for some of them (mostly ggs) at least they make hit songs too, and the bulk buying problem amongst ggs’ fandoms isn’t as severe as the top bgs’ side. That’s what that user meant by bgs impacting the environment and nothing else lol
Maybe I am very oblivious since everyone here seems to know what it is, but I don't know what Cookie is.
By your responses, I'd like to keep it that way.
if you’re not from an english speaking country, you’ll most likely have no idea what it means, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just a sex slang and not very prevalent in pop culture exported to foreign countries, so no shame in never having heard of it
I mean ive won best dance performance last year despite not being the best performers or having the most difficult or challenging choreos amongst the nominees, so shouldn't you already be familiar with this concept? 
mama's awards are never about the arts lol, it's about popularity and success only.
don't get me wrong, i'm not here to discredit any winner (i really couldn't give two shits about these awards lol they can do whatever they want), just pointing out that we have precedence for the "best dance performance" award going to someone not actually having "the best" performance all the time, for years, there's no use only getting salty now
Either way is the type of songs that koreans like BUT they are typical NOT from GGs (usually OST, or some soloists). Tell me which GGs in the past 5 years had a huge hit with ballad.
like someone mentioned few pages back, koreans usually dont listen to slow songs from GGs cause those are more associated as "fans song". They look for bops from GGs
The only GG that constantly hit it big with ballad, correct me if im wrong, is only 2NE1 (Lonely, It hurts, Missing you). They even did well with non-title track ballad - 'If I were you' from their last album peaked at #8 and sold close to a million.
That’s bc you’re looking at things in a vacuum. If ive had released either way instead of, say, after like last year, or i am this year, there’s no doubt it wouldn’t do as well as those songs, and in fact if we look at raw numbers, either way’s performance right now won’t surpass those songs any time soon. But when you factor in this whole cb’s rollout, the promo, the music selection, the mvs, the budget, the type of songs a group like ive released as singles after either way, even historical charting from other groups as reference, it came as no surprise to me that either way ended up doing the best amongst the three singles. Notice i said I wasn’t surprised that either way did the best among those songs, not that either way is a smash hit (despite not being a high energy dance song), bc it’s not a smash hit. It just did the best out of the three.
It’s funny bc i actually predicted this exact scenario in a thread on the very following day after baddie was released lol man kpop companies gotta start paying me soon if they want to see into a crystal ball to gauge their future success bc my prediction streak has been on fire 
The song was always good, you just finally got some taste 
(although the one thing preventing me from fully embracing it is the english lyrics; “off the record night” and “no more kill my vibe” are quite egregiously kpop-esque phrases lol they make very little sense and always take me out of the song 
luckily the music pulled me back at least)
careful with this language lol, we’ll be accused of being the same person! they’re onto us lol
honestly that’s one of the most bizarre things i’ve seen said on this website lol i thought that user was joking at first but no they actually believed you and selfmate were dupes, I can’t 
You two literally are wildly different, from the place you live to your ethnicity to your gender to your interests and the kpop groups and type of music you like, it’s wild can’t think of a less likely combo of users to accuse of being dupes lol
really? I don’t even follow charts that closely but based on what i’ve seen over the years, either way performing the best on charts this ive cb is the least surprising thing to me lol
she's basically got the best female artist and best female solo dance performance wins in the bag. the rest is more volatile and unpredictable, but she might have a chance for worldwide fans' choice. no shot for the remaining noms, pretty sure
Someone just discovered how capitalism works and is now throwing a hissy fit that corporations aren’t a charity or talent show and don’t hand out prizes to reward who’s supposed to “deserve” it as opposed to who don’t 
These collaborations already imply in the very definition of their name that they’re two-way streets designed to benefit both sides. The only thing companies care about is increasing their own profits and prestige, so why the fuck would they employ a nugu artist that don’t benefit them in any way for their project just to placate some kpop stans’ ridiculously stupid and naively false sense of entitlement Again, this ain’t a talent show, so crying your snobby arse that talents don’t matter in these decisions wah wah is peak kpop stans behaviour. It’s been established in every single industry, not just music, that having the right connections is the only thing that matters, and talents are irrelevant if they don’t generate as much revenue. You think kendall jenner gets so many gigs like she does bc she’s got insane out-of-this-world modeling talents? And then acting like hybe’s ggs are the lowest of the lowest when it comes to talents, when the groups suggested to be more “deserving” replacements that were mentioned really aren’t as overwhelmingly superior as you think they are Just cringe
