Posts by David33
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Of course, she had hits, she was pretty big between 2012-2017 or so, but she's not a Kpop Idol, and she's not your typical Korean singer either, people think she's more like an American than Korean. And now she's basically an indie artist.
She's a Legend, just like Sohyang, but they're not mainstream. This is the life of a soloist in Korea.
Most of them have a good 5 year, and they will disappear from the Charts.
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Why ChatGPT bots are allowed in AKP Forum?
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Google is free, my darling!😅
And when was Blackpink at the Oscars and sing?
Hard to tell since i dont know too much about SNSD history and i dont care.
Then, why are you talking about SNSD's impact if you don't know anything? You successfully embarrassed yourself! Congrats!😂
BP are first GG’s to colab with some of the biggest names in western music. They pulled in the eyes of everyone world over to their style and image and music. Everyone and their mothers is singing BP songs contrary to popular narrative you’re trying to spread that no one cares about their music or no one listens to them. Absolutely SNSD does not have this reach or impact or cultural significance.
Anyway so far no one has provided anything worth while to say SNSD’s impact is greater than BP’s. But that’s expected. Because it doesn’t exist. Especially not outside of Korea.
Yeah, NO! Blackpink is not even the 10th group who did a collab with big Western artists, my guy!
Here some for you:
SNSD with Snoop Dog, CL with Black Eyed Peas, 4Minute with Skrillex, Wonder Girls with Akon, 2NE1 with Will.i.am, Wendy with John Legend, and let's not forget about the first ever Kpop Idol, BoA even tho she's not a girl group, but she started this trend!
SNSD doesn't have the same reach? So, tell me, how is that SNSD are the #1 girl group on every TOP list made by American music platforms, like Rolling Stone or Billboard, and not Blackpink? 😂
Also, the only ones whom are didn't provide any real evidence is BLINKS, they're only talking about charts and streaming, ergo popularity, not influence.
As I said in my previous quote, it was after BP happened that so many things became common in kpop. Fashion deals, sns influencers, fandom as big as bgs, etc etc etc. their impact in America+Europe+Asia is bigger than any other gg.
Fashion trends and deals has nothing to do with Blackpink. The whole thing started with G-Dragon and SNSD members!
Pretty much everything you think is common now in Kpop, because of BP, started in the 2nd gen.
The thing is, SNSD did have that impact to make people learn Korean and get obsessed with K-dramas. Only it didn't happen in the mainstream West and Latam. It was in the wider Asian continent and Asian diasporas in the West. Which is not any less important, because Asia still has the most kpop fans globally.
I mean, I live in one of the smallest shitholes in Europe, I don't think I've had internet back in the day when I was a teen, I did everything at Internet cafes, yet, I still heard about SNSD and other big Kpop artists.
I literally bought magazines to read about Kpop or Kdramas. 😂
David. I'm saying SNSD impact in Latin America was very very small in comparison with BP impact here. Is impact you like it or not.
Btw, relax dude, you are too old to be histerycal about a topic like this one.
My dear, you said it yourself, you don't know much about SNSD. Why are you talking about their impact in Latin America, then? Based on your comments, I'm not even sure you were alive when SNSD were active, let alone knowing how impactful they were in LATAM.
Just so you know, SNSD has one of the biggest fandom in Latin America.
I'm 100% relaxed, btw.
I'll leave this here to end this lame argument, this is from 2011! But yeah, no one cared about Kpop and SNSD in LATAM!😂
YouTube and Girls' Generation Fandom
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So, you wanna ignore MILLIONS of people who did the same because of SNSD?
Leave your bubble! Just because YOU and many BLINKS learned about Kpop and wanted to learn Korean language doesn't mean everyone on this planet did the same.
Calling SNSD's impact a "very very small scale" shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge about Kpop.
Does Blackpink have 1 song that is an Anthem for their own country and many others for protesting? No they don't. That's impact! Making you learn the language or watch Kdrama etc is basically just a drop in the ocean.
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Yes, but also, it means SNSD had a bigger impact. Nowadays, it's much harder to make a REAL impact, because Kpop and the Music Industry in general is way bigger thanks to SNS, so people can consume it more easily and find more artists if they're not lazy, and it changes much faster so it's much harder to make a lasting impression too.
QuoteYou know this means exactly what I said, right?😅 I remember, and I'm pretty sure you know this as well, why BP got so much hate (for no reason, btw, it's not their fault), because YG said this. This was not only disrespectful towards 2NE1, but also BP.
QuoteI think I was fair enough, and didn't say a single bad word about BP, so don't get why do you have to slander MMM, especially when you know what you're saying is not true at all! If this is your only argument, don't argue with me, or provide real facts why BP is more impactful than SNSD.
The GRAMMY (LINK HERE) literally wrote an article about MAMAMOO's influence a couple of days ago! Hwasa's US tour is one of the biggest topic on SNS and big platforms like the one that BLINKS love so much, Billboard continuously promoting her, calling her Queen etc.
The fact that you mentioned CHARTS and IMPACT in the same sentence proves why Blackpink has no real impact! Also, I don't see Blackpink charting anywhere, did they release a new song? No, so don't talk about charts. MAMAMOO in their prime charted with 25 songs on MELON's Main Chart in the span of 1 year! No other group did that, and BP barely has 25 songs overall, so...
Just a couple of things that MAMAMOO changed since their debut:
Beauty standards are much better now, they're the first group having an official LGBTQ+ fandom raising founds every year. Pretty much the only popular girl group that openly talks about topics that other Idols (again, not their fault, most Idols are not allowed to talk about these things) can't talk about, like: the Queer community, Feminism, female genital mutilation, perform with gender-fluid dancers or queer dancers on live television, fought "wars" with the Kpop industry even on live stages like MAMA, disrupting the social norms, like how women should behave or dress, and so on!
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"making it" isn't supposed to be easy, so it doesn't really matter if it's 1%.
I didn't say it has to be easy, but you're basically ignoring 99% of Hollywood and actors all-around the world because they're not as popular as Al Pacino or Meryl Streep, for example.
If an actor getting roles continuously, that's when you say: "They made it", because the industry trust them, and people love them as well.
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Making it means being a-list. There are many actors that have won prestigious awards. They examples used in the OP are for mainstream productions in America, not Cannes darlings. The chances of IU making it in those areas is 0.
No offense, but do you know how many A-LIST actors are in Hollywood? They're the 1% of the WHOLE industry! Saying, being part of the minority means you made it, is just ridiculous!
Especially, because most of those actors in that 1% are WHITE!
Not to mention, most of them are flopping on Box Office! Actors like Vin Diesel or even The Rock making more money than all of them.😂
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The answer is pretty obvious. BP has a bigger impact internationally while SSND has a bigger impact in Korea. There's not much to discuss here.
You misspelled IMPACT! What you're talking about is POPULARITY!
Impact can last even after the artist not alive anymore, but popularity don't last forever! And this why these comparisons are ridiculous because BP is still active and kind of in their prime. Meanwhile, SNSD can come out of their cave after 5 years and still charting in the TOP5 as they did in 2022.
If BP can do that after 18 years we can have a conversation, but that's only Charting! SNSD's impact is not only about album sales or charting. It's a whole cultural impact and not only in Korea.
Snsd has worst discography from 2nd gen girl groups except few songs especially their b sides, also people saying snsd most imapctful but that most impactful go into oblivion and lost momentum when soon as twice debuted and that's not the case for blackpink otherwise that great kpop girl groups know it all doesn't make this thread.
What I said above!
Also, TWICE can't chart in Korea after 9 years, so...
That's not the case for BP, because they have 30 songs, SNSD has more 300.
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"Pretty much every snsd member"
Do your own research. I can't even count how many Idols said they wanted to become Idols, because of the members.
Even the least popular members were mentioned multiple times, like Sunny or Tiffany. You know damn well that SNSD members are almost equally popular in Korea. Idols who want to sing, mention Taeyeon, Jess, or Seohyun Tiffany or even Sunny most of the time. Rappers and dancers pick Hyo, and the ones who want to be the next It Girl mention Yoona.
SNSD overall is the reason girl groups are successful now, and this isn't what I'm saying, people in the industry said it. A LOT of girl group debuted with "Into the New World" cover.
For the first time in about a month, you're cooking something here David.
Thank you for deciding to not unflop my thread that is already on its 4th page.
It's my fault I can't ignore misinformation. 🤣
BTW, as much as I LOVE 2NE1, why are we forgetting Brown Eyed Girls, the original girl crush group?
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And DaisyTheGenuine what did YGE said again? I always forget the quote, but I'm sure it's more about yge formula than 2ne1 itself bc both marketing was totally different. But go live in your delusional world!!
I know what YG said: We wanted to debut a YG girl group like SNSD, but we failed, so we instead debuted the pretty version of 2NE1.
This isn't a shade about BP, btw! I'm just repeating what Daddy Yang said. 😅
QuoteAlso, you know damn well this isn't true, because 2NE1 is way bigger than BP in terms of influence and girl crush concept.
BP is not even the best girl crush in the 3rd gen, that's MAMAMOO with 90% of female fans!
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Getting one award isn't "making it."
Mate, it's her first movie promoted in the West and she (they) won the most prestigious Award in history! How is that not "making it"? She has more Kdrama trending in the West than any other Idol.
So, what is "making it" in your eyes, because I don't get these things anymore.
In my eyes, "making it" means, you got your chance in the West and you didn't flop, and IU not only didn't flop, but she won one of the biggest Award for her FIRST TRY!
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Interesting, so while IU leads in Global Non-English.
Wanna one guy leads in Global.
Anyway, just saw CCP's Global Times has praised Tangerines, despite the Netflix ban in China.
IU might be leading if you include the illegal Chinese Downloads, they have the numbers.
And another factoid you can use in your conspiracy theories, IU has donated more than even BTS members to the Wildfire efforts.
Spin away.
Our ChatGPT guy forget that IU's show is a WEEKLY drama, while the Weak Hero is a whole season, and it's a show from 2022!
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It's not boring to post my TOP3 best performances!
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