Maybe class will teach you to understand I wasn't talking to you directly, just generally. If I wanted to speak to you directly, I would have quoted you. Like I'm doing now.
If your trying to act as smart as me you're not off to a good start.
This is the post that mentioned Spotify first.
But others did too. So I made a general statement, not directed at you at all, but you somehow took this as mentioned for yourself.
Sounds like you are very insecure about this.
Using spotify metrics with how much it's paid for with spotify discovery and playlisting, in the year of our lord 2024.
Unserious people.
I don't know whether Babymonste are leaders or not, but using Spotify as your single source to prove anything means you've got no idea what you are talking about in the slightest.
Stop posting and pay attention in class.
I mean Lip Syncing on stage for 10 minutes then picking up Daesangs is..... a choice.
I still remember the very first actual live vocal performance of Black Mamba was.... on a survival show.
I do sometimes wonder if they really are the best vocalists of the era as so many claim them to be. I'd probably have to rank the Nmixx vocals above simply because they bring out the goods everytime on stage. To me that's part of singing.
Me calling their comment "low down" means that their comment was uncalled for and not funny. Apologies if that was unclear.
Ahh sorry.
My mistake then too.
I lowkey think many people were crossing their fingers that Idle would disband.
That''s the only thing that explains the absolute mania them renewing has caused amongst non-fans.
I can't speak for Korea, but in my country there's been a massive increase in scooter related injuries (and two deaths) relating to scooter accidents, including 25% of those being 3rd party (ie not the person on the scooter).
To be on something like that while intoxicated is just.... an exceedingly poor lapse of judgement. A lapse of judgement that prompts questions about decision making.
Bit like Irene's scandal - it's not just the act itself, but the mindset someone has to have to even do this act is rather astonishing, it brings into question the nature of the person itself.
Then, ontop of the very questionable personal decision making, there was the elements of the cageyness and the poor attempts at mediaplay about the accident in question. That also gets people offside.
I'm not saying he should necessarily lose his career over this, but it's far more serious then people who go "oh it's just a scooter blah blah" understand or realize.
I'm obviously talking about the nominated artists, not the whole Kpop!
Yes but you don't get to pick and choose your lane.
Again, you're trying to basically be hypocritical. You want stats to count, otherwise you've no guarantee of IU's album even being nominated, but you don't want them to count "too much" either, because that's why Aespa's Armageddon and (G)I-DLE's 2 had higher results.
Your entire premise is flawed. If that stats count for the nomination, they count for the result - hence Armageddon winning.
If they don't count, then who knows if IU would even be nominated. Certainly in an "album of the year" category across all musical artists last year.
And when did they say all these things exactly?
Asked this exact question to about 15 different people over the last 24 hours.
No-one has come up with an answer yet. All are apparently convinced Idle announced they'd leave Cube and no-one can provide proof.
If i had to suspect, I would garner it's some Tiktok bait that did the rounds.
Ok if you want to talk quality, then IU's album wasn't even the best solo album this year.
Here's the rub David. You don't want IU competing in an out and out "merit" battle with some of the amazing indie music coming out from Korean female soloists. What i've recommended above is the tip of the Iceberg.
You DO want streams and stats to count, but only up to a certain point, because otherwise she'll out and out lose. So you want your cake but to eat it too.
IU's Lilac was far far better then her recent one, and even it lost to another female soloist on pure merit in 2022, losing to Lang Lee.
You whinge about the stats, but you want them to count for the awards, otherwise a free for all against what IU dropped in 2024? You won't like the results.
But again, don't have to believe me, wait for KMA in early Feb to see the real results.
Soyeon shouldn't have talked so much if she wasn't going to walk the walk.
I want someone to show me where Soyeon says "I'm definitely leaving cube".
People keep going on about how she's contradicted herself? Where?
All she's talked about is the contract being up. Which is definitely something they wanted - as that means a better payday for everything they do. They're still on their original pre debut 7 year contract. Hell yeah she'd be chomping at the bit to renegotiate and get a big % increase.
So please, tell me where Soyeon said "I am leaving Cube 100% no cap". Because you can't.
Because she's not a physical monster, but her album charted better than any Kpop album!
Ok, but that's the issue. MAMA clearly gives great credence for physical sales. It's a holdover from days where physical sales were more indicative of popularity then "fandom" (without getting into a debate between the difference of the two), but nonetheless MAMA uses physicals for many of it's scores.
So therefore that counts against IU.
Also, Mnet literally changed their criteria. They released a statement a month ago, saying, they won't nominate albums just because it's popular or had the most sales, yet they did it! Their so-called criteria is 60% sales and 40% judge vote. You wanna tell me, they nominated IU for the best ARTIST, but that 40% judge don't think her album was good enough for a nomination?
Mnet did change the criteria, but you are misled by the paraphrasing of the tweet by the chart account versus what they actually announced.
They said more specifically "it would not be limited to album sales, but include other measures". They then changed the award criteria from 80% album sales, to 60% album sales, reducing the impact of album sales, and then making jury 40% instead of 20%.
So they followed through with what they originally announced, but you appear to have been mistaken due to how it's worded by the chart account phrasing it, and thinking something different to what they announced.
She didn't sell many physicals (comparatively). She also doesn't get many streams outside Korea.
Their criteria is pretty straight forward to be honest. They mark it clearly. They indicate well in advance exactly how they're going to score their awards and people are upset because... they follow through with the rules?
Like MAMA isn't my favourite award show or anything, but feels like your just getting angry about something that is exactly what they say on the tin.
If you want pure merit, again, wait for KMA next year. Then IU will have her shot (but don't be surprised if she doesn't win that either).
MAMA is an award show that outright puts its criteria front and centre - digitals for songs, physicals for albums/combined metrics.
So the strong digital songs winning their respective categories should be no surprise, and the strong boy group with huge album sales winning those categories come as no surprise.
I'm not going to get into the indepth calculation, but it just sounds like you are mad that the biggest songs of the year won? or something?
Like you go on about how Fate didn't deserve to win due to you thinking RV "sung better". Entitled to that view but MAMA have been pretty blatant about how they use charting as a criteria, and Fate ran circles around the other nominees in Korea. Basically the only well known song in Korea on that list.
What you (and others) want is KMA - Korean Music Awards. They use just a panel of judges to judge the "best" ascribing to quality.
What I think you'll find though OP is you won't enjoy the results of the "purely merit" based awards as much as you think you will.
KMA occurs in Feb/March next year, so just be patient and wait for the pure merit based awards to occur.
thebadguy have been left the fandom
Wow, I didn't know of this jawdropping news.
Im surprised they are popular at all, how can they get through the day knowing that thebadguy doesn't stan then anymore. Every day must be a tribulation. I"m amazed they didn't all quit to become hermits in the mountains once this momentous occasion occurred.
If you can get over your soojin akgaeness for a moment, Idle have never been good with voting. Not strong with Soojin in the group, and not strong without her. They have a slightly older fanbase and they just tend to not be as militaristic bout this stuff. It's been their way since debut. Idle getting 90k vs 1 million is just something we laugh at in the fandom. C'est la vie.
le sserafim may not have the best vocalists but why are some yall acting like you stan kpop for the singing
Speak for yourself - and honestly telling on yourself.
I 100% like my group because of their vocals (and rap). Love their palette and diverse range, love their songs.
I remember falling for them watching them do a BTS cover actually - I immediately loved their voices. Then it turned out their songs were amazing too, so here I am.
Everytime someone goes "all kpop stans do x" they're just telling on themselves. Don't lump others in with your own parasocial view.
I.... that can't be how they sing right? Those vocals are awful. I haven't listened to Illit before, but wow... that's....very very bad vocals.
That aside.
The plausible deniability excuses have been given already I see - "scream" means frustration etc. Which sure. But if you trying to tell me that no-one who was writing those lyrics didn't think or know about the double entendre that was in those lyrics then I've got a bridge to sell you.
That's really all there is too it. Absolutely no way that gets by without someone knowing, which means it was deliberate to proceed with those lyrics, even if it was originally written "innocently" (of that which I doubt too, but it's easier to just to point to the massive elephant in the room).
And they have a minor in the group. Pretty unconscionable. But it's Belift - when they're not outright plagairising stuff or Enhypen, I guess they just try to do stuff like this. Sounds like a *fantastic* label and culture to work under.
