Posts by O-NULL

    My problem with western adaptions is they are just lazily done. Its obvious from the video that they cant dance and whoever choreographed it has no idea what to do with their formation. There is one part of the video they just seem to be dancing in a weird diamond shape.


    And if you look at 0:32, they literally have unsynced parts in the music video (which i think is why larger groups are harder to do).

    Still a horrible attempt. We need a SKILLED western kpop group, but it seems no one wants to commit to training or finding members who can sing & dance well. Also my problem is, they always choose less visually appealing korean girls, like those are the only ones willing to tie themselves to this disaster. No shade, but coming from someone that generally prefers asians, the white girls are prettier here and that doesn't sit right with me :/


    Edit: Another mistake at 2:50, like this is a REALLY bad attempt

    Don't think it's horrible at all, they won't be as tight as girls who haven't gone through a trainee system for years. Song is good, they look good I think if they'd continued could have done something here with more training and hours put in. Why do you have a problem with the white girls looking good or better than the Asians? One of them is AKB isn't she

    Pretty epic group incredible consistency in title tracks, even Mafia which is their weakest is better than many other offerings. The girls themselves are a really likeable unit, lot of charisma and as you'd expect from JYP top class dancers.

    secretly? If there was a next season of Produce coming out tomorrow I would watch. I can't wait for Girl Planet 999 and am anticipating. Although I am not technically a Wiz*One.


    The only survival show by Mnet I will never watch again is I-Land (unless it's the female version and Heo Yunjin makes an appearance). I-Land to me was 10× worse than any produce group and any rigging scandal.

    I think there was a (understandably) pissed WIZONE on here saying they are planning on boycotting the show. What was wrong with I-LAND ?

    it's too bad they don't all stan Bling Bling instead

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    That's a great song !

    Wait random thing that this thread made me realize...

    I think this was the very first KPOP mv I watched

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    Since I remember a YouTuber I watched regularly reacts to KPOP for the first time or something and I looked up this video because it was probably included in that reaction video.

    Classic song :-D

    Here's what happened with GOT7 and JYP. People may have concluded this and written about it anyway so apologies if I'm going over old ground.


    So you have this popular, good looking, funny group with a loyal worldwide fanbase and great sales. They are an asset right? You'd be mad to get rid of them?


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    Let's suppose the financial side was not as important as the Ego of the CEO.


    People who think JYP made a mistake have got it all wrong, it went perfectly to plan as he wanted to push out GOT7... WHY YOU MAY ASK??


    Because quite simply JYP was jealous of them.


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    He's trying desperately to be the cool CEO, still releasing music and making MVs, the all singing, all songwriting, all dancing head honcho holding onto his youth forever.


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    But while he's a successful and talented guy, nothing on the planet will make him cooler and more loved with the female of the species than GOT7 (And he probably saw this internally with how females in JYPE, Twice, trainees, staff etc reacted to him vs GOT7 members).


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    He sidelined them with half assed comebacks, didn't offer them solo work, cancelled any attempt to write their own songs.


    GOT7 had no choice but to leave.


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    Before all of this was possible he had to make sure the financial impact was minimal. With the emergence of Twice the seeds were planted for the end of Jackson's posse. Before Twice you'd need a boy band in there to bring a solid income to JYP, and that's when GOT7 were of use to him. Then Twice became that 'boy group' from a financial perspective, making more $$$ then he could have ever dreamed of.


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    But having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea, so project ITZY was born. Now I'm not saying ITZY was utilised as a weapon against GOT7 but what transpired (and according to ITZY themselves no one in JYP expected this), there emerged an instant hit group. People loved the concept, the idols and the songs and were buying their albums....


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    Now you had two big girl groups who sold like boy groups, ITZY were the PERFECT replacement for GOT7 from a financial perspective, and a rock solid back up for Twice's money making machine!


    Once ITZY started killing it, GOT7 were GONE7... they were no longer required by JYP and he could finally be rid of them.


    What do others think makes sense or a load of total bullshit



    For most singers energetic dancing will have a horrible effect on vocals though. I don't think "as live" vocals are about vanity, but about giving the fans the best possible viewing (and listening) experience. It frees them up to dance without having to worry about conserving their breath.


    If it comes to it I prefer a seemingly live lip synced performance over what we hear on some encore stages. There's a reason most groups have taken to the casual/comical encore stage concept instead of seizing the chance to belt out the song again. We all know most of our faves are not the vocal sons and daughters of Celine Dion. We don't need the proof.

    Spot on comment

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    my all time favourite seventeen song:)

    Really great song some nice vocals in there can see why it's your fav

    Anything from EXO tbh but here are 3 gems:

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    Really good songs, sad for EXO they look so young here ahhh lost youth and members gone what can you do eh

    I knew precisely fuckall about SF9 they are so good ? Really impressed thanks :wow: