I’m sorry we have to agree to disagree. I’ll leave it at that.
They are providing you with facts and evidence, you can't disagree with that. Thank you for being civil though.
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Yep. But we all knew Twice defined the standards anyway. Whatever standard they want to try to push on Twice, they set the gold standard instead.
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Wait, DDDD charting lower than FY? Unexpected but WOW I love Forever Young.
It's pretty much always lower than FY for the last year or so. Both are still doing miles better than other girl group songs from the same time period, however.
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tzuyu is dancing here and then standing still. the video is edited, when it's edited means it's not recorded in one take, when it's not recorded in one take means they added the "live" track in postproduction. bts has done it too
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Thank you, you went through the effort I didn't want to go through to prove my point.
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You have an odd definition of facts. The vocal range not being an octave doesn't necessarily make the song easy. That's not a definition, so therefore not a fact.
Earlier in this thread I pointed out the multiple takes. That doesn't make it any less live.
I'm sorry that you feel so pressed to hate on Twice. Please continue to check out their music so you can try to pick it to pieces.
We appreciate your support.
If the range of a song is shallow, it makes it a lot easier to sing everything from supported notes, in-pitch notes, doing riffs and runs, etc. The more comfortable you are with the key, the easier it is to have a smooth performance.
My definition of facts seems more based in reality than on your end it seems.
Now it seems there are others that agree with me, despite your earlier claims.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't agree with any of this.
You're also the only one that seems to think this way and, with your track record of intentionally hating on Twice, I think my viewpoint has more bearing.
Sorry.
You can't disagree with the facts. The vocal range of the song is a fact. It doesn't even reach an octave.
I'm not the only one that thinks this way, others have pointed out things such as me. Don't lie lmao.
Your viewpoint has little bearing considering there are no coherent points backed up at all. If you want to live in a fantasy though, go ahead.
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The ease of the song is definitely an opinion. I don’t find those vocal runs they perform to be very easy at all. You have your opinion and I have mine. Neither one is the absolute truth.
Editing together multiple takes of the song doesn’t make it any less live. It was sung in that room using their voices. That’s live. And they executed it incredibly well.
As far as the shallow range of vocal notes, that's not opinion. The average song spans a little over an octave, and this song doesn't reach that. It's a low bar to reach, making it very easy to sing. Which is good because usually they are given songs way too complex for their abilities. The vocal runs are just a couple notes and nothing complex, especially in such a shallow range. If the vocal runs are hard for you, that's about you.
Editing many takes together is very similar to how songs are made. It removes any of the failed vocals that likely occurred(otherwise why even have the extra takes). "Live" would depend on the definition. Considering it's not one-take, has some obvious after-the-fact tuning, I would say "live" is a stretch. You wouldn't go to a concert and be able to see such a performance because you would have to see them do the same thing many times and then wait for the finished product afterwards. I would hardly call that live. As far as their execution, some of the small runs were poorly executed, but of course with the multiple takes you can get rid of the worst things. The point is that it's misleading to call it a live due to all of these factors. -
Western artist sales in bb200 are mostly lead by streaming/digitals bc buying physical album isn't really a thing anymore. In comparison, most kpop groups that chart there are lead by physical sales
True. Almost every kpop artist that charts in the top 10 these days leads by a large margin in physical sales unless there is a monster like Taylor or Adele releasing something.
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Good thing that nothing you said was the absolute truth then. Just your opinion.
Based on the range of notes present, it is a lot less difficult than any other girl group song in recent history. It doesn’t even span an octave. So yes, objectively it’s a very easy song.
The use of production/processing can be seen by the editing together of different takes in the video. Others have pointed this out. As far as other production things, that takes a more keen ear.
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The truth is neither nice or mean, just the truth. How one takes it isn’t the fault of the facts.
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Probably the easiest song to sing of any girl group song released in the last few years, and still there is some heavy processing in places.
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Yasssssss i wonder what it will tell us. Concert bts? More trainee stories/vids???
The Korean article states it will include a variety of different things from memories, behind the scenes, concert footage, etc. I forgot all it said at this point, but it seems to be a mix of a lot of different content. -
Every post leaves a trail - such is the nature of public forums. Taken together, any agendas become clear.
That applies to a large minority of your fandom as well then, so thank you for the information.
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BP have never missed a calendar year without releasing new music
Worst case scenario we get a single & album in January instead
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Lol, you bring up sales numbers of other groups in a TWICE thread but refuse to name them. OK.
You know who they are. The groups that consistently dominate Twice.
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Please report. It is against the rules to bash with the intention to start any sort of fanwar.
The rules should be more clear then on what a fanwar is, because I brought no mention of specific groups and had no intention of a fanwar. The rules are very vague on this matter. Also, it says "highly offensive", which is subjective. -
I'm getting more and more fearful we will have no group comeback at all this year. At this point though... I would prefer a January comeback to a November/December comeback.
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I would say Exo will probably have sold the least of the 4 (Even though Exo's numbers are really really good). BTS probably, but it's an expensive single album, so it's hard to gauge how it will do besides extremely well. Seventeen and NCT have a chance if that single album doesn't sell as massively as a regular album/EP from BTS would.
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I'm sorry that your standards are way too high then and you can't appreciate the things around you. You have my pity. Have a good evening.
The standards are pretty average actually, despite some fans wanting to place it really low.
You have my pity as well. Best wishes for your evening :)
