Posts by vimo03

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Rose's solo is enough to save YG and Lisa's solo is coming soon

and we might have a blackpink comeback this year too.

It's not enough since bp is not that active, they move like bb with one comeback in a while and mostly focus on individual activities.

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I don't get why people are acting like JYP are irrelevant like, Twice is still massively successful, Itzy is also very successful, and Stray Kids have the hugest international fandom behind BTS. Just because JYP artists aren't releasing back to back national hits, it doesn't mean they're not doing well. They still get tons of wins and are

Don't forget niziU which is huge in Japan. JYP is in much better place than YG right now.

I think no. It's July already and the whole company has released like 5 songs this year, at this point they're not even a medium music company anymore. Maybe we will wake up to the news of Yg shutting down one of these days.

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Guys, no one is this incompetent, it's now part of their strategy. YG got lucky that it worked the first time so if it keeps on working, he's going to keep doing it. The plan is so dumb that it works, almost brilliant in a way.

Hope you're just being sarcastic because YG is actually THAT incompetent, like some weeks ago they were looking for new graphic designers too, probably haven't found anyone yet that's why BP gets an old HYLT screenshot for movie teaser.

It's definitely jealousy and fake concern. All BP songs, including their bsides, are title tracks materials for other groups. BP can afford to release not many songs because each time they released the impact they made was enough to last for an entire year.

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I don’t buy the lack of material excuse. I really do think that they have a problem. Too much delays isn’t normal.

I think they just work slow in general, it's not just about lack of songs. I remember they once scrapped Lee Hi's album when she's already done recording and even shot the cover and promo materials for it, no one knows how that company really works.

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Maybe YG simply upped the criteria for their releases again. Pre Burning Sun every song released would've to be approved by YHS himself.
Since 2019 the quality of YG's releases minus Blackpink and Mino have taken a steep decline. Treasure released a whole album and not a single song would be good enough for a BigBang album.

What does Treasure songs have to do with BigBang? Treasure songs are for Treasure, if they're not your taste then move on and leave them alone, this low level shade is cringe. Of course it comes from a YHS worshiper too.

This actually looks like the normal YG schedule pre-2019 though. They were only aggressively active in 2020 because the investors were up their asses.

YG people, staff and idols alike, seem to work extremely slow and they don't want bring in outside help to speed up the process.

Quote from Blue2012

YG has the biggest girl group in the world, arguably YG is in their prime right now.

And given the reforms, barely any idol groups are charting especially 4th gen. But again, Kcharts and traditional K-streaming sites are shrinking in usage. They're hemorrhaging users. Melon is down to like 40% of marketshare. In a country that size, what, maybe 10 million people are using Melon, if that many. Only Youtube Music, Spotify and VIBE saw gains in Korea...Melon, Genie, Bugs and FLO have been losing users for 2 years.

But it's not like labels are targeting domestic charts anymore.

TREASURE is YG's first traditional "idol" group. They were not made in the same vein as other YG groups. YG couldn't say it out loud, but said in so many words...they don't care about the K-charts (which is shrinking in importance) with TREASURE. They said it by saying they are a "fandom-driven" group targeting a "global market." Labels have basically figured out they can target places like Japan that are 1000x bigger markets and have a bigger buying power and make more money than trying to chart in a relatively smaller market (Korea).

So TREASURE's not a good example.

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Just because Treasure targets fandom more doesn't mean they can get away with not charting at all. To compete with the top groups they will need a balance in physical sales & digital charting. A 12-member boy group selling 300k in 2021 is good, but not exceptional when you compare them to their peers.

You are severely underestimating the impact of Korean's validation that kpop groups need, like it or not the domestic market is kpop's foundation, a group could never be fully acknowledged as top group if they're nugu in their home country. Earning enough money to feed themselves by touring in Japan is not their end goal, far from it. As any normal group they would want their music to reach as many people as possible, they want the buzz, the validation, the acknowledgment, not just enough money to get by.

And if you truly think that YG's hype in 2021 is the same as it was back in the days then I don't think this argument could go anywhere.

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No offense to those groups but YGNGG will do better on the charts simply because it's YG and a girl group so Korea will check it out.

The views will be there for the same reasons.

YG debuts are pretty incredible and have high standards. The debut rollouts for: WINNER, iKON, BLACKPINK and TREASURE have been intricate and expensive.

Historically YG debuts are the measuring stick in Kpop.

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YG is not in their prime anymore, it's not 2016 like when BP debuted. Treasure didn't even crack top 100 on the charts when they debuted, just saying. Surely YGNGG would chart better than Treasure since they're a girl group however they're not going to get PAK for debut like BP, in fact I will be very surprised if they could get into top 50 especially if Teddy is not involved with their music.

They have too many members. When it comes to music production, this is definitely a con.

Unpopular opinion but I disliked their bright concept songs like My Treasure & Beautiful, I really hope we will not see similar songs in their comeback.

It might get released eventually but not by BP. Songs within the companies get passed between artists all the time so don't be surprised if it ended up being a YGNGG's song in future.

I think YG is more focused on YGNGG's debut right now, already seen a new article talking about them today. If they debut around July-Aug then I could see Treasure making a cb in September.

I don't feel that good since Asahi has been ghosting on social media for months.

Honest review on Beautiful: I never liked that song, don't hate me plz.

Treasure use their real names, all 12 members. It's surprising considering the history of other YG groups (full of stage names pretty much).

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Treasure ❤️

https://youtu.be/xU9ZA4apPaU

I'm still mad SBS robbed us of Doyoung & Mashiho's fancams for this performance. Literally 2 main dancers and we couldn't see them for a heavy dance stage??

On topic, both groups have great dancers but unbiasedly I think Enhypen has slightly better chorepgraphy.

I prefer Treasure's style of singing. This is one of my favorite songs this year.

The reason why YG stans were so strong during BB & 2NE1 era was because these 2 groups interacted with each other all the time, you could feel like they treat each other like siblings. However since 3rd gen YG groups started to distance from each other, there's no material for company stans to prosper. The last YG family concert was back in 2014 way before BP even debuted. I remember Bobby said iKon wasn't even allowed to meet BP.

Treasure has debuted half a year already and they never took even one photo with a YG sunbae.

Can someone give a logical explanation on how having several releases in the same month = using BP for promotion? How does it work? It's not like YG acts acknowledge or even take photos backstage while they go on music shows to promote even at the same time so what's promotion exactly?

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I must agree that blue is right when she/he said that music show win aren't as important as before though.

But it doesn't change the fact, it's also true they don't really "give away" these wins too.

I really hope Treasure will get their 1st win and I think they deserve it. They just had bad timing and sadly debuted after melon chart changed (and melon digital is 60% of win for many music shows). Well, we can't deny none rookie groups who debuted after the reform won. I have the feeling we had back in early 2012-2014 before Kpop become more global and ifans go stream song in korean platform to give win to their groups. Now, we can't do this anymore.

Ngl, I knew Treasure wouldn't had this first win when I saw G-idle was coming back same day since they have a recognition Treasure don't have in Sokor. And I was/am kind okay with this. It will only make their first win more meaningful. (I kind want their 1st win with their own color/style and maybe their own song too so..)

I think Cravity has won already, I remember seeing their hashtag trending, and Aespa has won on Inkigayo.

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Oh sure, I don't doubt they want a music show win...probably more so because they see some fans work hard for them and dont want to discourage them.

But TREASURE also said you can only win a rookie award once. Even some of the biggest acts in Kpop history can't say that they've won one. The fact there is only one chance vs. 1000s of chances makes yearly awards more important.

Both rookie awards and music show wins are important though. YG did try their best to get a win for them for My Treasure, they released the physical album in the same week as the MV, got Treasure on Mcountdown where they had the best chance of winning, the official twitter even asked kfans to vote via text, I believe they never did this for other YG acts. I just don't like it when some fans act like "They don't care about music show wins anyway!!" when they clearly do care. When they finally got that 1st win all the members will be crying their eyes out on stage I'm sure of it.

Quote from Blue2012

Which are less important than actual yearly awards of which TREASURE has 13. That's why literally hundreds of music show trophys are given out like candy yearly.

They give out trophies like candies according to you yet Treasure still hasn't been able to win yet...

Please stop underestimating these music show wins when the Treasure members themselves clearly want that 1st win so bad. They literally said this in the recent Sketchbook interview:

It does help but not as much as people think. In Treasure there are 4 Japanese members and while they are quite popular I'd say the Korean members like Junkyu & Jihoon are just as popular to Jfans, especially Junkyu.